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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 20 Feb 22 11.06am Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

Thanks for that. Although as you'll have read above, I can't agree about your second point. I think he could be a striker. It's not as if any of our current strikers have much better conversion rates. At least if Wilf is through on goal, I feel like he will score. Which is more than I could say for the others. I just don't think he has the pace or crossing ability to be an out and out winger anymore. He basically said it himself.


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Why is it our other strikers are struggling could it be due to wilf not doing his job and providing service to them or if you watch him he is very lazy hardly closes down or comes back so one of those strikers ends up having to do that.

The guy wants an easy ride now wingers have a tough job.

Sooner this guy is dropped or sold the better for the club.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Feb 22 11.10am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


No

Why is it our other strikers are struggling could it be due to wilf not doing his job and providing service to them or if you watch him he is very lazy hardly closes down or comes back so one of those strikers ends up having to do that.

The guy wants an easy ride now wingers have a tough job.

Sooner this guy is dropped or sold the better for the club.

Just perused the following :

"First up is Zaha, who played centrally in a 4-2-3-1 system. He gave the ball away 21 times, lost eight of his 13 duels and also missed a big chance for the hosts.

Zaha also completed just three of his seven attempted dribbles and had two shots off target, making it an afternoon to forget for the 29-year-old."

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 20 Feb 22 11.29am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


No

Why is it our other strikers are struggling could it be due to wilf not doing his job and providing service to them or if you watch him he is very lazy hardly closes down or comes back so one of those strikers ends up having to do that.

The guy wants an easy ride now wingers have a tough job.

Sooner this guy is dropped or sold the better for the club.

Yes, it is like this. What PV decided for yesterday's tactics was that wingers were to be able to create and finish their own moves: genuine forwards were to be left on the bench. Hence we didn't look like scoring and didn't register one shot on target. Personally I can't fathom this approach, and although we know that a centre forward has the unglamorous task of putting the ball in the net, this is not the be all and end all of his game.
Leading the front line, harassing central defenders, pressing, defending set pieces all fall into the modern strikers role.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Feb 22 12.07pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill


Hence we didn't look like scoring and didn't register one shot on target.

How can you say that we didn't look like scoring when both Zaha and Olise had shots that only narrowly missed

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 20 Feb 22 12.09pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

How can you say that we didn't look like scoring when both Zaha and Olise had shots that only narrowly missed

They missed. Our players currently don't look like scoring. It's a matter of confidence I do believe.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 20 Feb 22 9.47pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Just perused the following :

"First up is Zaha, who played centrally in a 4-2-3-1 system. He gave the ball away 21 times, lost eight of his 13 duels and also missed a big chance for the hosts.

Zaha also completed just three of his seven attempted dribbles and had two shots off target, making it an afternoon to forget for the 29-year-old."


Clearly, whoever wrote that was at the same game as me and saw the same Wilf (non) performance as I did (despite his two good chances he had.

 

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 20 Feb 22 9.58pm Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


No

Why is it our other strikers are struggling could it be due to wilf not doing his job and providing service to them or if you watch him he is very lazy hardly closes down or comes back so one of those strikers ends up having to do that.

The guy wants an easy ride now wingers have a tough job.

Sooner this guy is dropped or sold the better for the club.

Wait, what? We're largely in agreement. This is the whole reason I'm saying I don't think he's a decent winger anymore, but could be a better striker.

 

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Seems the 'Arse' think we're deffo selling Wilf . . . [Link]

Edited by eagleman13 (21 Feb 2022 3.40pm)

 


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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 21 Feb 22 4.12pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Yes, it is like this. What PV decided for yesterday's tactics was that wingers were to be able to create and finish their own moves: genuine forwards were to be left on the bench. Hence we didn't look like scoring and didn't register one shot on target. Personally I can't fathom this approach, and although we know that a centre forward has the unglamorous task of putting the ball in the net, this is not the be all and end all of his game.
Leading the front line, harassing central defenders, pressing, defending set pieces all fall into the modern strikers role.

Surely its not that hard to work out....best club team in the world, play 2 narrow wingers who will tuck in to pack the midfield and work back, free up Olise and Zaha to counter at pace, try to find them early.

Bar a single lapse of concentration, and some poor finishing we could have won it.

 

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View ambrose7's Profile ambrose7 Flag Croydon 21 Feb 22 4.18pm Send a Private Message to ambrose7 Add ambrose7 as a friend

Final straw for me with Wilf on Saturday was his actions in stoppage time.

For those that didn't see, McArthur was taken off at the start of stoppage time, Mateta brought on, and McArthur threw the armband at Kouyate to get off the pitch as fast as possible. Kouyate puts it on. Game restarts. 4 minutes added on.

Within those 4 minutes, Zaha has decided to hunt down Kouyate, at the time our only defensive midfielder so the furthest from him, to get the armband off him.

His performance was poor, he should have been hooked before then, but I cannot fathom how who was wearing the armband for 4 minutes when we're 1-0 down was even in his mind.

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View Chubskip's Profile Chubskip Flag 21 Feb 22 4.35pm Send a Private Message to Chubskip Add Chubskip as a friend

I started this thread to gauge general reaction and I have not seen anything to change my mind. If we can get anything for him, a bit like Aubangyamum and get him off our wage bill. Thanks for great memories Wilf.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 21 Feb 22 4.39pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Yeah he's half way out the door...

Sad, but it had to come.

 

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