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Matov 07 Dec 21 1.47am
Originally posted by georgenorman They could form The People's Front of Woke. Problem is that they then effectively condemn themselves to even more irrelevance. And the reality is that the Left within Labour tend to be far more active on a local level. And they do get results, albeit on a micro-level but there is a formula that can work for them. For example down in Woking, Labour are doing really well, thanks to a very active and well organised local party. Ditto up in Preston where they actually have some ideas worth studying. Let's not forget that a Corbyn led Labour party pulled in 40% of the vote in 2017, a fact that a lot of people, including many of those in the Labour Party at the moment, seem to want to pretend did not happen, especially given Starmer's instrumental role in helping screw Labour up in 2019. Now I am always more than happy to mock the Corbynites on all sorts of things and am under no illusions about the ill they wish on people like me but they are much more capable of getting people out to vote than people realise. What they did in 2017, even on the back of perhaps the worst Tory campaign ever (which even then managed to pull in 42%) ever, always needs respecting and keeping an eye on. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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07 Dec 21 1.47am

Originally posted by georgenorman

They could form The People's Front of Woke.

Problem is that they then effectively condemn themselves to even more irrelevance. And the reality is that the Left within Labour tend to be far more active on a local level.

And they do get results, albeit on a micro-level but there is a formula that can work for them.

For example down in Woking, Labour are doing really well, thanks to a very active and well organised local party. Ditto up in Preston where they actually have some ideas worth studying.

Let's not forget that a Corbyn led Labour party pulled in 40% of the vote in 2017, a fact that a lot of people, including many of those in the Labour Party at the moment, seem to want to pretend did not happen, especially given Starmer's instrumental role in helping screw Labour up in 2019.

Now I am always more than happy to mock the Corbynites on all sorts of things and am under no illusions about the ill they wish on people like me but they are much more capable of getting people out to vote than people realise. What they did in 2017, even on the back of perhaps the worst Tory campaign ever (which even then managed to pull in 42%) ever, always needs respecting and keeping an eye on.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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georgenorman 07 Dec 21 8.12am
Originally posted by Matov For example down in Woking, Labour are doing really well. The clue is in the name.
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07 Dec 21 8.12am

Originally posted by Matov

For example down in Woking, Labour are doing really well.

The clue is in the name.

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Pembroke Bristol 28 May 22 10.49am
This could have gone in number of threads - Stella Creasy women are born with a p****! Biologically, literally and legally she is wrong. Edited by Pembroke (28 May 2022 10.50am)
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This could have gone in number of threads - Stella Creasy women are born with a p****! Biologically, literally and legally she is wrong.

Edited by Pembroke (28 May 2022 10.50am)

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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 28 May 22 11.21am
Surely, only if inserted... Originally posted by Pembroke This could have gone in number of threads - Stella Creasy women are born with a p****! Biologically, literally and legally she is wrong. Edited by Pembroke (28 May 2022 10.50am) hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Surely, only if inserted...

Originally posted by Pembroke

This could have gone in number of threads - Stella Creasy women are born with a p****! Biologically, literally and legally she is wrong.

Edited by Pembroke (28 May 2022 10.50am)

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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Matov 28 May 22 11.24am
Originally posted by Pembroke This could have gone in number of threads - Stella Creasy women are born with a p****! Biologically, literally and legally she is wrong. Edited by Pembroke (28 May 2022 10.50am) Why the Labour Party insist on dying on this particular hill is completely beyond me. Nobody in their right mind believes it and to have people who wish to govern the country repeating versions of it, over and over again, makes zero sense. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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28 May 22 11.24am

Originally posted by Pembroke

This could have gone in number of threads - Stella Creasy women are born with a p****! Biologically, literally and legally she is wrong.

Edited by Pembroke (28 May 2022 10.50am)

Why the Labour Party insist on dying on this particular hill is completely beyond me. Nobody in their right mind believes it and to have people who wish to govern the country repeating versions of it, over and over again, makes zero sense.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Badger11 Beckenham 28 May 22 11.35am
Originally posted by Matov Why the Labour Party insist on dying on this particular hill is completely beyond me. Nobody in their right mind believes it and to have people who wish to govern the country repeating versions of it, over and over again, makes zero sense. I think I read there are are 5000 Trans people in the UK despite all the nonsense of the activists. Just like the bloke who wants to bring his cat to the supermarket sometimes you cannot accommodate everybody's wishes. As you say why are Labour obsessed with such a tiny minority when 99.9% of the population is not Trans. I see the AG made a good point today about Trans schoolkids, they cannot legally Transition until 18 so schools should not bow to any pathetic requests such as uniforms toilets or pronouns. Give 'em a clip around the ear Edited by Badger11 (28 May 2022 11.37am) One more point
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Beckenham 28 May 22 11.35am

Originally posted by Matov

I think I read there are are 5000 Trans people in the UK despite all the nonsense of the activists. Just like the bloke who wants to bring his cat to the supermarket sometimes you cannot accommodate everybody's wishes.

As you say why are Labour obsessed with such a tiny minority when 99.9% of the population is not Trans.

I see the AG made a good point today about Trans schoolkids, they cannot legally Transition until 18 so schools should not bow to any pathetic requests such as uniforms toilets or pronouns.

Give 'em a clip around the ear

Edited by Badger11 (28 May 2022 11.37am)

One more point

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BlueJay UK 28 May 22 12.26pm
Originally posted by Badger11 I think I read there are are 5000 Trans people in the UK despite all the nonsense of the activists. Just like the bloke who wants to bring his cat to the supermarket sometimes you cannot accommodate everybody's wishes. It's all about the pussy. Those without a pussy insisting we call them women, and a bloke ticking a box at the doctors thinking it entitles him to walk around with one on his shoulder for the rest of his days. I'd better bring some kitty treats the next time I fly in case he's sitting in front of me. Edited by BlueJay (28 May 2022 12.36pm)
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UK 28 May 22 12.26pm

Originally posted by Badger11

It's all about the pussy.

Those without a pussy insisting we call them women, and a bloke ticking a box at the doctors thinking it entitles him to walk around with one on his shoulder for the rest of his days. I'd better bring some kitty treats the next time I fly in case he's sitting in front of me.

Edited by BlueJay (28 May 2022 12.36pm)

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 28 May 22 1.44pm
Never mind about Catwoman, I'm more troubled by this bunch of leftie Trade Union leaders. [Link] No wonder there are transport strikes and industrial action plans in the pipeline with these blokes calling the tune. Don't they realise that their hard-line tactics will only make matters worse? What with this lot and a seeming recurrence of violence at football matches, the country appears to be in regression. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Never mind about Catwoman, I'm more troubled by this bunch of leftie Trade Union leaders.

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No wonder there are transport strikes and industrial action plans in the pipeline with these blokes calling the tune. Don't they realise that their hard-line tactics will only make matters worse?

What with this lot and a seeming recurrence of violence at football matches, the country appears to be in regression.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 May 22 1.52pm
[Link] Yet another reason why a huge swathe of people don't buy into this scam. It's a grift people.... Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 May 22 1.52pm

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Yet another reason why a huge swathe of people don't buy into this scam.
It's a grift people....

Pro USA & Israel

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Stirlingsays 28 May 22 3.33pm
One in five of young people don't identify as a regular male or female. So the neo liberal agenda is working.....you can't strictly call it the left's agenda as the mainstream right adopted most of it.....It receives massive funding by corporations and elites and has battled its way into schools....well in the countries where their degeneracy is accepted. [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (28 May 2022 3.37pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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28 May 22 3.33pm

One in five of young people don't identify as a regular male or female.

So the neo liberal agenda is working.....you can't strictly call it the left's agenda as the mainstream right adopted most of it.....It receives massive funding by corporations and elites and has battled its way into schools....well in the countries where their degeneracy is accepted.

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 May 2022 3.37pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Teddy Eagle 28 May 22 4.13pm
Originally posted by Badger11 I think I read there are are 5000 Trans people in the UK despite all the nonsense of the activists. Just like the bloke who wants to bring his cat to the supermarket sometimes you cannot accommodate everybody's wishes. As you say why are Labour obsessed with such a tiny minority when 99.9% of the population is not Trans. I see the AG made a good point today about Trans schoolkids, they cannot legally Transition until 18 so schools should not bow to any pathetic requests such as uniforms toilets or pronouns. Give 'em a clip around the ear Edited by Badger11 (28 May 2022 11.37am) So enough to take up about half the Arthur Wait.
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28 May 22 4.13pm

Originally posted by Badger11

As you say why are Labour obsessed with such a tiny minority when 99.9% of the population is not Trans.

I see the AG made a good point today about Trans schoolkids, they cannot legally Transition until 18 so schools should not bow to any pathetic requests such as uniforms toilets or pronouns.

Give 'em a clip around the ear

Edited by Badger11 (28 May 2022 11.37am)

So enough to take up about half the Arthur Wait.

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georgenorman 28 May 22 4.15pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle So enough to take up about half the Arthur Wait. That wouldn't surprise me, does Eddie sit there? Edited by georgenorman (28 May 2022 4.15pm)
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28 May 22 4.15pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So enough to take up about half the Arthur Wait.

That wouldn't surprise me, does Eddie sit there?

Edited by georgenorman (28 May 2022 4.15pm)

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