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Matov 20 Jun 22 2.21pm
Interesting results from our friends across the channel. Macron loses his majority, in the face of predictions after his re-election that he would gain more. A Left-Wing coalition pull in 131 seats Le Pen leaps from 8 to 89 seats and is now Frances's main Right-Wing political party as the Republicans are reduced to 61. Still difficult to ascertain any real lessons give the hype at the moment but potentially some serious ramifications for Macron and what he can get done. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

20 Jun 22 2.21pm

Interesting results from our friends across the channel.

Macron loses his majority, in the face of predictions after his re-election that he would gain more.

A Left-Wing coalition pull in 131 seats

Le Pen leaps from 8 to 89 seats and is now Frances's main Right-Wing political party as the Republicans are reduced to 61.

Still difficult to ascertain any real lessons give the hype at the moment but potentially some serious ramifications for Macron and what he can get done.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 20 Jun 22 2.29pm
Originally posted by Matov Interesting results from our friends across the channel. Macron loses his majority, in the face of predictions after his re-election that he would gain more. A Left-Wing coalition pull in 131 seats Le Pen leaps from 8 to 89 seats and is now Frances's main Right-Wing political party as the Republicans are reduced to 61. Still difficult to ascertain any real lessons give the hype at the moment but potentially some serious ramifications for Macron and what he can get done. Just what we could do with in little britain- anything, anything at all would be a bonus!
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 20 Jun 22 2.29pm

Originally posted by Matov

Interesting results from our friends across the channel.

Macron loses his majority, in the face of predictions after his re-election that he would gain more.

A Left-Wing coalition pull in 131 seats

Le Pen leaps from 8 to 89 seats and is now Frances's main Right-Wing political party as the Republicans are reduced to 61.

Still difficult to ascertain any real lessons give the hype at the moment but potentially some serious ramifications for Macron and what he can get done.

Just what we could do with in little britain- anything, anything at all would be a bonus!

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steeleye20 Croydon 20 Jun 22 2.33pm
Macron will have to compromise a bit but that's not a bad thing, would we had the same here. He has 5 years I think this is massively over-cooked.
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steeleye20

Croydon 20 Jun 22 2.33pm

Macron will have to compromise a bit but that's not a bad thing, would we had the same here.

He has 5 years I think this is massively over-cooked.

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Matov 20 Jun 22 2.42pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 He has 5 years I think this is massively over-cooked. Hard to call anything on it at the moment although my understanding is that the French pollsters are not the most popular people in Paris at the moment. But Le Pen going from 7 to 89...shades of the SNP hovering on the fringes for a long time before leaping right into the mainstream. However I cannot even pretend to know much in detail about the minutiae of the French electoral system so who knows? "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

20 Jun 22 2.42pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

He has 5 years I think this is massively over-cooked.

Hard to call anything on it at the moment although my understanding is that the French pollsters are not the most popular people in Paris at the moment.

But Le Pen going from 7 to 89...shades of the SNP hovering on the fringes for a long time before leaping right into the mainstream.

However I cannot even pretend to know much in detail about the minutiae of the French electoral system so who knows?

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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cryrst The garden of England 20 Jun 22 5.10pm
Originally posted by Matov Hard to call anything on it at the moment although my understanding is that the French pollsters are not the most popular people in Paris at the moment. But Le Pen going from 7 to 89...shades of the SNP hovering on the fringes for a long time before leaping right into the mainstream. However I cannot even pretend to know much in detail about the minutiae of the French electoral system so who knows? It I trust you will try to find out for our benefit
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cryrst

The garden of England 20 Jun 22 5.10pm

Originally posted by Matov

Hard to call anything on it at the moment although my understanding is that the French pollsters are not the most popular people in Paris at the moment.

But Le Pen going from 7 to 89...shades of the SNP hovering on the fringes for a long time before leaping right into the mainstream.

However I cannot even pretend to know much in detail about the minutiae of the French electoral system so who knows?

It I trust you will try to find out for our benefit

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Matov 20 Jun 22 5.41pm
Originally posted by cryrst It I trust you will try to find out for our benefit LOL. Sorely, sorely tempted. But must resist. Political prediction is now up there with Economics in terms of becoming more akin to looking into crystal balls and pretending to understand what is going on rather than actually being able to make any kind of genuine stab at trying to work s*** out. We live in a world gone insane. Saw this quote from John Donne last week and it has been echoing around my strange old crust ever since... �Be thine own palace, or the world's thy jail.� If the game is clearly rigged then even attempting to play it makes you even worse than the mug punters who think it is not. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

20 Jun 22 5.41pm

Originally posted by cryrst

It I trust you will try to find out for our benefit

LOL. Sorely, sorely tempted. But must resist. Political prediction is now up there with Economics in terms of becoming more akin to looking into crystal balls and pretending to understand what is going on rather than actually being able to make any kind of genuine stab at trying to work s*** out.

We live in a world gone insane. Saw this quote from John Donne last week and it has been echoing around my strange old crust ever since...

�Be thine own palace, or the world's thy jail.�

If the game is clearly rigged then even attempting to play it makes you even worse than the mug punters who think it is not.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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silvertop Portishead 21 Jun 22 11.11am
Ha! a seriously important result for the political scene in Europe and... 5 posts! I cant say I blame the other HOLers. "French politics" is a title that doesn't draw flies. Perhaps "Brigitte Bardot's knickers". We would already be on page 200...
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silvertop

Portishead 21 Jun 22 11.11am

Ha! a seriously important result for the political scene in Europe and...

5 posts!

I cant say I blame the other HOLers. "French politics" is a title that doesn't draw flies. Perhaps "Brigitte Bardot's knickers". We would already be on page 200...

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Matov 21 Jun 22 1.35pm
Originally posted by silvertop I cant say I blame the other HOLers. "French politics" is a title that doesn't draw flies. Perhaps "Brigitte Bardot's knickers". We would already be on page 200... My bad. Point taken. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

21 Jun 22 1.35pm

Originally posted by silvertop

I cant say I blame the other HOLers. "French politics" is a title that doesn't draw flies. Perhaps "Brigitte Bardot's knickers". We would already be on page 200...

My bad. Point taken.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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W12 21 Jun 22 1.46pm
It�s definitely a good result as the big gains were from populists (anti globalists) from the left and the right. We are going to see a lot, lot more of this.
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W12 21 Jun 22 1.46pm

It�s definitely a good result as the big gains were from populists (anti globalists) from the left and the right. We are going to see a lot, lot more of this.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 21 Jun 22 5.13pm
Originally posted by W12 It�s definitely a good result as the big gains were from populists (anti globalists) from the left and the right. We are going to see a lot, lot more of this. We need the same here W12, shake our system up a bit, or a lot.
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 21 Jun 22 5.13pm

Originally posted by W12

It�s definitely a good result as the big gains were from populists (anti globalists) from the left and the right. We are going to see a lot, lot more of this.

We need the same here W12, shake our system up a bit, or a lot.

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cryrst The garden of England 21 Jun 22 6.02pm
Originally posted by croydon proud We need the same here W12, shake our system up a bit, or a lot. Certainly agree if it sorts out the feckless and tax avoiders. Can�t see that under any of the others though so may as well stick to what we have.
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cryrst

The garden of England 21 Jun 22 6.02pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

We need the same here W12, shake our system up a bit, or a lot.

Certainly agree if it sorts out the feckless and tax avoiders.
Can�t see that under any of the others though so may as well stick to what we have.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 21 Jun 22 6.13pm
Originally posted by cryrst Certainly agree if it sorts out the feckless and tax avoiders. Can�t see that under any of the others though so may as well stick to what we have.
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croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 21 Jun 22 6.13pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Certainly agree if it sorts out the feckless and tax avoiders.
Can�t see that under any of the others though so may as well stick to what we have.

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