The idea that I am a bully made me smile. I will share that at the pub this evening. I am certainly tenacious and try to be persuasive but bully I am not. I loath bullies , of which Trump is one. Both my daughters are strong minded and would quickly put a bully in their place.

The point I was making that it wasn’t just the left wing who reacted to Trump’s victory with dismay, and to suggest everyone else was happy with it, is ridiculous.

To jump on the admitted OTT language I used to make the point and think that indicates anything is a little strange. It’s just rhetoric.

I don’t know how much time you have spent in the USA or how many Americans you know but from my own experiences their political judgements are often based on values we don’t share. Or not most of us.

If you continue to believe that because 52% of those who actually voted, which is far less than 50% of “us”, in a compromised referendum means, that means a majority now disagree with me, then I don’t. The tide has definitely turned, as it was bound to.

I regret to tell you that in my opinion it was the Brexiteers who bullied the people with their lies and false promises.

The idea that I am a bully made me smile. I will share that at the pub this evening. I am certainly tenacious and try to be persuasive but bully I am not. I loath bullies , of which Trump is one. Both my daughters are strong minded and would quickly put a bully in their place.

The point I was making that it wasn’t just the left wing who reacted to Trump’s victory with dismay, and to suggest everyone else was happy with it, is ridiculous.

To jump on the admitted OTT language I used to make the point and think that indicates anything is a little strange. It’s just rhetoric.

I don’t know how much time you have spent in the USA or how many Americans you know but from my own experiences their political judgements are often based on values we don’t share. Or not most of us.

If you continue to believe that because 52% of those who actually voted, which is far less than 50% of “us”, in a compromised referendum means, that means a majority now disagree with me, then I don’t. The tide has definitely turned, as it was bound to.

I regret to tell you that in my opinion it was the Brexiteers who bullied the people with their lies and false promises.

Away from politics I have no doubt you do a sterling job with organising and delegating. When it comes to politics you are very tunnel visioned. I cannot believe you don’t see one good thing that trump did for many Americans.

Ah yes baseless statements supported by nothing else but your own opinion of Brexit. To quote the Simpsons...

"Mr. Hutz, we've been in here for four hours. Do you have any evidence at all?" "Well, your honor... we've got plenty of hearsay and conjecture. Those are kinds of evidence."

Leave also spent a considerable chunk and their campaign, run as it was by Cummings, was particularly effective. Credit where it's due, but choosing our future via marketing campaigns just isn't sensible. Add to that the unanswered questions over where some of the Leave money came from, and the bad taste is still there. It is always easier to sell change rather than the status quo. It was in 2016 and will be again when the time comes to re-enter.

The economic problems the west are now suffering are not caused by Brexit. Ours are just worse because of Brexit. So the tide is turning. The whispers are faint, but they exist.