A "two-speed" Europe has been discussed for decades. My daughter wrote her dissertation on it in 1983, and I presented a paper on it to my employer at the time, based on her work.

It always looked blindingly obvious to me that this was the way to go. An inner core drawing ever closer, and an outer group economically associated, but at an arms length.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Emanuelle won an election, it doesn't make him Napoleon Bonaparte 2.

What's their thing with short? Sarkozy too. Must be an in joke.

Red and Blue Army!

The new EU

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The German Chancellor wants majority voting on tax and foreign affairs plus closer military co-operation.

Doesn't that mean than an individual country would be forced to go along with a policy it didn't agree with?

This speech comes several months after Macron called for reform and it seem that the Franco German alliance is in lock step. Their idea of reform of course is an EU superstate.

None of this is a surprise it is quite clear what the end game is they just keep nudging it forward little by little.

Edited by Badger11 (30 Aug 2022 10.46am)

One more point

Food shortages, sky high prices if you find some, energy prices rocketing, fuel prices, shortages of staff-120000 short in the NHS alone, operations cancelled-I had experience of this last week, pubs closing as no staff , record cod an chips prices, £13 .50 in Purley, no freedom to live anywhere in 29 countries unless you pop back every 90 days= whats not to like?

'Brexit means Brexit'

Our new unelected PM will have a shiny new German car to show off as a major benefit of leaving the EU.

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