That is the difference between left and right. I as right wing, can look at left policies and agree with what I think is a good and beneficial one. You on the other hand are a lefty. Say no more I guess….!!

Albeit that the changes in Ts and Cs are the way to free up money for the pay rises. This is going to backfire on the unions as by the time the strikes are over and seen to be a waste of time the offer will have dropped with inflation and Ts and Cs will be changed anyway. Remember the miners strikes? Not many pits survived did they? Even with that dope stirring it up daily. Money is actually god tbh!

Perhaps no more- except I stated I couldn"t care if an old style CONservative gov came in to replace bungle and his cronies, but forget that if it suits your agenda!

God forbid we send a man home who has travelled in to work as cover and is not needed!
If that"s the case its all in the terms and conditions i"m sure spider- thats the deal, so no biggy! A bit like perks of a night shift- I saw nurses take a 2 hour kip in private room, then swop a few years back- all part of the job, or carers having sleep over duty, all part of the job sleeping! Just because tube and train drivers have got a good union- with good negotiated terms- shouldn"t get workers jealous- they have to get themselves good terms-with a good union!

Being sent home when needed, the hours come out of their working week, not bad if you can get it. Yes they have got a good Union, good luck to them but don’t try and make out they are hard done by. You say they deserve it as public safety is in their hands, how much do fireman, police, paramedics get in comparison?
Couple of years ago my son worked at Thorpe Park and was responsible for the safety of guests on some of the “bigger” rides. No unions, was only job he could get at the time, Was paid minimum wage, no overtime no perks, no paid holidayPerhaps tube drivers with their 43 day holiday a year aren’t so badly off

I have never said they should come down to a lesser level. You have been saying they deserve more, I have suggested that perhaps the wages they are paid are very good. IMO they are not bad,y off, can quite comfortably live on their wages, have good t&c’s. At this present time I cannot support them inconveniencing Joe public who are trying to go about their everyday lives.
Unfortunately there are many jobs where the workers have no union representation so, if they want to work they have to take what is thrown at them. That, by the way, is not down to the CONS, it is exploitation but people are prepared to put up with it, to keep a job.

Edited by Spiderman (16 Sep 2022 8.57pm)