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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Sep 22 4.08pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

No idea Teddy- its not my job, unless you want to pay me? But i"m guessing keep the bankers bonus at 200% of salary like the EU wanted, no need to go above 2x salary is there, or a bonus ?. How about hitting the energy companies and the multi nationals like uber with proper tax? Ban the use of off shore tax havens. Perhaps , if these don"t work, hit the pensioners in their pensions- they keep voting CON after all, perhaps its time for them to feel the pain

Yes, multi-nationals should pay their due.
As for pensioners £141.85 a week isn't a lot to start with and is a bit ironic to penalise them when they often did the low-paid jobs you're trying to help.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 17 Sep 22 4.10pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I have been talking about workers who have no access to Unions ( for the 3rd time), this is a thing in the real world, so they will stay down there whatever.
I don’t think you will find a post where I have said I support the CONS, I just can’t support Labour and totally disagree with these strikes, at the present time

Edited by Spiderman (17 Sep 2022 4.02pm)


Ok, fair enough, you do seem to stick up for the CONS a lot though, and if the train drivers and others get good pay rises, those at the bottom- even non union workers, will be pulled up with increases in time or nobody any good would do the jobs.But its not important, we can agree to differ or we go round and round!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 17 Sep 22 4.12pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Yes, multi-nationals should pay their due.
As for pensioners £141.85 a week isn't a lot to start with and is a bit ironic to penalise them when they often did the low-paid jobs you're trying to help.

Fair dues Teddy- you know my pensioners bit wasn"t serious- i was just slipping that in to a comment you made yesterday, saying that, it might be an idea!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Sep 22 4.35pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Fair dues Teddy- you know my pensioners bit wasn"t serious- i was just slipping that in to a comment you made yesterday, saying that, it might be an idea!

Yes, I knew that!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 17 Sep 22 4.36pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I have been talking about workers who have no access to Unions ( for the 3rd time), this is a thing in the real world, so they will stay down there whatever.
I don’t think you will find a post where I have said I support the CONS, I just can’t support Labour and totally disagree with these strikes, at the present time

Edited by Spiderman (17 Sep 2022 4.02pm)

Anyway- i"m losing interest in sticking up for less fortunates- lots don"t vote and are couch potatoes, no point keep stressing on here talking to opposite opinions, you get nowhere and what does it achieve? I will try and only post when I see a real clanger or lawbreaking by the government in charge, or a real piss take- like going over 2x salary for bankers bonus!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 17 Sep 22 4.37pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Yes, I knew that!

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 18 Sep 22 12.05am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Anyway- i"m losing interest in sticking up for less fortunates- lots don"t vote and are couch potatoes, no point keep stressing on here talking to opposite opinions, you get nowhere and what does it achieve? I will try and only post when I see a real clanger or lawbreaking by the government in charge, or a real piss take- like going over 2x salary for bankers bonus!

That's same as everywhere else in the world except the United States of Europe.

It is still strange the left have taken the word " bankers " and redefined it as some kind of demonic anti-Christ.

There's a banker, cross yourself and get the pitchforks.

Personally I think for example sports people and celebs are less deserving.

Whilst we live in a society where investment constantly is needed to promote growth we need some kind of system, i.e banks to channel that.

When the global population is one billion we can all live in some kind of Utopia where we can sit around discussing methods of growing our food in a non plant hurting way and weaving non dairy yoghurt ( tips hat to Alexi Sayle )

Edited by HKOwen (18 Sep 2022 12.10am)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Sep 22 5.46am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

The top 1% of earners in the UK pay around 30% of the income tax take for hmg.
It doesn’t really make sense to push them away by punishing their efforts and rewards.
Who picks up the slack if that 1% go to other countries ?

 

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Originally posted by croydon proud

Anyway- i"m losing interest in sticking up for less fortunates- lots don"t vote and are couch potatoes, no point keep stressing on here talking to opposite opinions, you get nowhere and what does it achieve? I will try and only post when I see a real clanger or lawbreaking by the government in charge, or a real piss take- like going over 2x salary for bankers bonus!

You are such a tease CP we know you don't mean it.

 


One more point

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 18 Sep 22 4.37pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

And so far the taxpayer has made about 1 billion profit on said bailout. I’m sure that’s good news. Btw the lights didn’t go out and life went on. Also it was a labour hmg and I agreed with what they did.

Well, I don’t know how you calculate that. Did you include the time value of money? Last I knew the cost of borrowing was about the same or more than the face value ‘profit’.

In the meanwhile we had the opportunity cost issues. Schools and hospitals not built or upgraded for example. The banking and Covid bailouts significantly favoured the rich, as they used the savings of poorer people. Ask an economist.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

The top 1% of earners in the UK pay around 30% of the income tax take for hmg.
It doesn’t really make sense to push them away by punishing their efforts and rewards.
Who picks up the slack if that 1% go to other countries ?

The Resolution Foundation said wealth had increased during lockdown as a result of a lack of spending opportunities and rising house prices, but the benefits had been skewed to the richest by a ratio of more than 500 to 1.

Jack Leslie, a senior economist at the thinktank, said it was rare for wealth to increase during a recession but the impact of events during 2020 and 2021 had been to “turbo-charge” the gap between rich and poor.

So that’s all good then. No need for any rebalancing as the rich are doing so much for the rest of us


In 2015-16 the average rate of tax paid by people who received one million pounds in taxable income and gains was just 35 per cent: the same as someone earning £100,000. But one in four of these paid 45 per cent – close to the top rate – whilst another quarter paid less than 30 per cent overall. One in ten paid just 11 per cent—the same as someone earning £15,000. The rich, it seems, are not all in it together.

These low rates are not driven by complex tax avoidance schemes; they’re part of how our system is designed. Where you get your money from (or at least how you package it) matters, because investment income and capital gains are taxed at lower rates than income from work. What’s more, as the National Audit Office recently highlighted, the government offers tax reliefs claimed to incentivise activities like entrepreneurship, without actually checking whether they achieve these aims.

Quoted from London school of economics

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 18 Sep 22 5.21pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The EU says that excess mortality deaths have hit +16% higher than normal. There seems to be very little analysis of this in the media.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Sep 2022 5.22pm)

 


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