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  Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 22 Sep 22 7.39pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So I had a bath with the chavs up to about two years. We bathed with them as toddlers. We used naturist beaches in Continental Europe, where it was more usual to be naked than clothed. We didn't seek them out at all. It was just what was there. The children were teenagers then and able to decide for themselves. They chose to swim and sunbathe naked without any encouragement either way, and thoroughly enjoyed the feeling of freedom. Being naked in front of them, or them in front of us, was just never an issue. It wasn't discussed.
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| Spiderman Horsham 22 Sep 22 7.44pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This garbage really needs to be called out. My wife and myself frequently bathed with our children, and used naturist resorts. There was never a thought in anyone's mind of any kind of sexual implications, let alone intent. Quite the reverse. It helped them be confident about their own bodies to know their parents were with theirs. It's those who see some kind of evil intent in absolutely natural and innocent family behaviour who have the hang-ups, and are the potential perverts. Trump abused his position to take advantage of the impressionable. Not all his "conquests" were willing participants of an age able to decide for themselves. The "model agency" he ran was little less than a trafficking route for vulnerable star struck teenage girls, many very young, to be abused by him and his wealthy friends. There is a lot yet to really hit the surface. Epstein is rightly condemned, but Trump was involved with him too and not so far behind. With regard to your last paragraph….. how do you know? Have you spoken to the “victims” or gave you got the information from websites? Edited by Spiderman (22 Sep 2022 7.45pm)
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| Spiderman Horsham 22 Sep 22 7.47pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We bathed with them as toddlers. We used naturist beaches in Continental Europe, where it was more usual to be naked than clothed. We didn't seek them out at all. It was just what was there. The children were teenagers then and able to decide for themselves. They chose to swim and sunbathe naked without any encouragement either way, and thoroughly enjoyed the feeling of freedom. Being naked in front of them, or them in front of us, was just never an issue. It wasn't discussed. I can just imagine my daughters reaction, when she was a teenager, if I appeared naked in front of her. She most certainly wouldn’t want to be naked in front of me nor would I want to see her but each to their own
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cryrst  The garden of England 22 Sep 22 8.05pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Well quite. Let him clarify rather than assume he fiddled his teenage daughter in the bath. I bathed my kids till they could toddle. So what? Anyone with an issue with that has the problem. No one said he fiddled anyone so that needs nipping in the bud now.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Sep 22 8.55pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
With regard to your last paragraph….. how do you know? Have you spoken to the “victims” or gave you got the information from websites? Edited by Spiderman (22 Sep 2022 7.45pm) Trump being involved with Epstein is, I believe, a fact. He travelled to his island, as confirmed by flight records and Epstein's pilot. I believe Clinton was also there, but not necessarily at the same time. What they did there remains speculation but, given what we know, both about them and what happened on the island, that speculation is likely to only be in one direction.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Sep 22 8.59pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I can just imagine my daughters reaction, when she was a teenager, if I appeared naked in front of her. She most certainly wouldn’t want to be naked in front of me nor would I want to see her but each to their own Indeed, each to their own. The point, of course, being that jumping to the conclusion that Biden is a paedophile just because he, and his family, behave differently to you and yours, is simply wrong, and it needs to stop. Evidence of different behaviour is not evidence of paedophilia.
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| Stirlingsays 22 Sep 22 11.03pm |
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I'm not aware that Trump actually travelled to Epstein's island. However it's known that he travelled on Epstein's private plane a known 7 times back in the 90s. Trump cut him off back in 2002. There are plenty of us who want to know who did actually travel to Epstein's island when it was known to have sex slaves there. It's a well known that these records are being kept from all of us. I want anyone who was involved in that exposed and have to answer. I regard it as a major abuse of power and in another way a major reflection of where real power sits that this stinking large scar is being very publicly silenced. Anyway I don't care who it was....If Trump was there shagging underage or exploited girls I want to know....It might reveal something I've suspected for a while about just who has the actual dirt on him. But whoever these powerful people are they don't deserve the protection they are so clearly getting. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Sep 2022 11.04pm)
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 23 Sep 22 7.43am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There is plenty of circumstantial evidence and statements from reliable witnesses. Sufficient to have convinced me, although not yet enough to mount prosecutions. It's been a while since I looked at any, so don't have the links to hand, but you will be able to find it easily enough, if you put in the effort. You really are ludicrous. Posting gossip as fact, your m.o to a tee DIPAG How many moons does your planet have again? Edited by HKOwen (23 Sep 2022 7.54am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Sep 22 8.07am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
You really are ludicrous. Posting gossip as fact, your m.o to a tee DIPAG How many moons does your planet have again? Edited by HKOwen (23 Sep 2022 7.54am) What I said was what I meant! Nothing more! What I found convinced me. It doesn’t have to convince you and clearly isn’t yet a fact. You can, if you wish to, do your own research.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 23 Sep 22 8.14am |
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The visitors to Epstein's and his circle in general appear to have one thing in common, rich and powerful. All shades of politics, nationality etc. Bill Gates seems to have led the arrival list
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Sep 22 10.11am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I would agree that severe sexual repression leads to sexuality issues. We can associate that with certain extremes within religion and cultures yes. However, that's a county mile from a reasonable socially conservative attitude to sex. And sorry mate, but nudists are a bit weird....anyway you swing it...not necessarily harmful but for feck's sake mate keep it in your pants!! No it isn't! It's the precursor which creates the conditions in which it thrives.
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| Stirlingsays 24 Sep 22 10.19am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No it isn't! It's the precursor which creates the conditions in which it thrives. Oh the irony.
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