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 Teddy Eagle  23 Oct 22 11.40am |
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Phil’s Barber  Crowborough 23 Oct 22 12.43pm |
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I think Boris gets the 100 backers required, if he stands. He is then likely to be PM again. The party members disliked hugely how Sunak stabbed Boris in the back and were never going to vote him in. On the whole they still love Boris and even then there was significant support for his name to be added to the ballot paper with the first emergence of the ‘Bring Back Boris’ campaign. As was widely reported at the time any of the other candidates would have won against Sunak in the final vote; Braverman, Mourdant, Badenoch or Truss. I don’t see that enough will have changed for the party members and Boris will win any head to head vote against Sunak next week.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Oct 22 1.01pm |
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Latest figures : Sunak 148 The total represents 70% of the total number of Conservative MPs.
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 georgenorman 23 Oct 22 1.08pm |
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Clearly Sunak would be the best choice, but if it goes to the Tory faithful it will be Johnson. Whoever it is they will lose the next general election by a landslide and, if it is Johnson, he probably won't even get to the next general election.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 23 Oct 22 1.41pm |
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Wasn't Truss doing the right think in principle cutting the huge tax hike by Sunak? But her tax cuts were redundant tory economic make believe, nobody seriously believes in trickle down. Cutting working people and families taxes generates revenue by creating demand, it is Keynesian, for the tories it is still alms for the poor. Sunak equals huge tax increases, huge borrowing (he was blamed by Lord King today) and inflation. He caused much of the problem, the tories must think he has learnt the lesson, or isn't it the truth that he looks tory-like and they are desperate for anyone to stave off an election.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Oct 22 2.13pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Clearly Sunak would be the best choice, but if it goes to the Tory faithful it will be Johnson. Whoever it is they will lose the next general election by a landslide and, if it is Johnson, he probably won't even get to the next general election. I am far from convinced this will be the case. Apropos a "Landslide", I am certainly not going to engage in prognostication when an election is over 2 years away - 2 days is a long time in politics !
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| Midlands Eagle 23 Oct 22 3.01pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Sunak equals huge tax increases, huge borrowing (he was blamed by Lord King today) and inflation. He caused much of the problem, the tories must think he has learnt the lesson, or isn't it the truth that he looks tory-like and they are desperate for anyone to stave off an election. The economic problems have been caused by keeping the country afloat during a pandemic and the effects of Putin's war in Ukraine. The chancellor has the option of either finding funding to help out or leaving the populace to fend for themselves and I think that you must have been listening to a different program to me if you think that Lord King blamed Sunak because he didn't
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| Midlands Eagle 23 Oct 22 3.02pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I have actually being engaged in conversations on this matter with a multitude of supporters and most will be supporting Sunak, however there are 170,000+ members and I haven't polled them all ! Why not? You've got nothing else to do today
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| Stirlingsays 23 Oct 22 3.23pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
The economic problems have been caused by keeping the country afloat during a pandemic and the effects of Putin's war in Ukraine. The chancellor has the option of either finding funding to help out or leaving the populace to fend for themselves and I think that you must have been listening to a different program to me if you think that Lord King blamed Sunak because he didn't Whatever we think of the decisions made for both of those situations I would say that they had the effect of speeding up a crisis that was already on the way. The level of debt that both governments and corporations, including more importantly banks are in has been a feature for decades now.....what covid and the Ukraine did was just add significantly to an unpayable bill.....with the Ukraine bill mainly being a 'paying for expensive energy' issue for those of us who aren't well to do. I note that Hunt has changed the energy bill assistance down from two years to six months. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2022 3.33pm)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 23 Oct 22 3.31pm |
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Rishi Sunak - who as Chancellor oversaw the highest inflation in 40 years, the biggest drop in living standards since 1956, the biggest fall in wages since records began & UK trade performance at its worst level on record wants to “fix our economy”. He fixed it alright, for himself and his rich banker mates. I think the huge debt is a millstone round any new man, but the tories have borrowed recklessly they are not the party of sound money.
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| Stirlingsays 23 Oct 22 3.35pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Rishi Sunak - who as Chancellor oversaw the highest inflation in 40 years, the biggest drop in living standards since 1956, the biggest fall in wages since records began & UK trade performance at its worst level on record wants to “fix our economy”. He fixed it alright, for himself and his rich banker mates. I think the huge debt is a millstone round any new man, but the tories have borrowed recklessly they are not the party of sound money. All valid points. However, we note that on all the financial decisions that affected the national debt levels Labour argued for more and harder measures that would have increased, not lowered debt. You also would have spent Christmas in another lockdown.
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Eagle Black.  South Croydon 23 Oct 22 3.48pm |
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Not even the Tories can be stupid enough to bring back liar Boris. As it stands Rishi looks like being the new kid on the block.
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