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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Oct 22 11.44pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

Sorry Willo ... any group that voted in Liz Truss has not earned my respect. A Broad church of ill informed or inexperienced people albeit across a plethora of professions and industries who made a very bad call when all the warnings were there.

With respect I am not in agreement and I articulate from experience having had the pleasure of meeting hundreds of members over the years.

Edited by Willo (23 Oct 2022 11.47pm)

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 24 Oct 22 5.28am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

And on the other thread- saying if RISHI gets in- you might never vote CON again?

Facts CP facts!!
Firstly it was a post on this thread
Secondly I said “ if Rishi gets in I doubt I will vote again for ANY party again, as noone can be trusted”
If you interpret that as “I might never vote CON again” then so be it

Edited by Spiderman (24 Oct 2022 5.32am)

 

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View jhillman's Profile jhillman Flag USA 24 Oct 22 6.06am Send a Private Message to jhillman Add jhillman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I have been an active member for many,many a year and I certainly do not recognize this description of the membership. We are a 'Broad church' with life experiences across a plethora of professions and industries.

I accept that 40% of our membership are 65 or over, however we are not in the main jowly old souls who are detached from reality.
I had the pleasure of attending the hustings and there were many who were NOT long in the tooth at all.

Edited by Willo (23 Oct 2022 11.32pm)

Your distain for people 65 and over could not have been any clearer. Age can be accompanied by wisdom. On the other hand, I suppose that idea is contradicted if one is 65 or over and still a member of the Tory party.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 24 Oct 22 6.37am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Rishi Sunak - who as Chancellor oversaw the highest inflation in 40 years, the biggest drop in living standards since 1956, the biggest fall in wages since records began & UK trade performance at its worst level on record wants to “fix our economy”.

He fixed it alright, for himself and his rich banker mates.

I think the huge debt is a millstone round any new man, but the tories have borrowed recklessly they are not the party of sound money.


I agree , nothing to choose between Conservative and Labour on tax and borrow now

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 24 Oct 22 7.29am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

So Liz Truss gets £115,000pa rpi linked for the rest of her days along with the many other living ex PMs.
Not bad for just over a month at the helm.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 24 Oct 22 7.31am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

With Sunak coming in I suppose the cast in stone triple lock pension will be removed.
Politics sucks.

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 24 Oct 22 7.32am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by jhillman

Your distain for people 65 and over could not have been any clearer. Age can be accompanied by wisdom. On the other hand, I suppose that idea is contradicted if one is 65 or over and still a member of the Tory party.

A well founded disdain in many circumstances. Age may be accompanied by wisdom but it is also accompanied by a lack of appreciation of the experiences of the young and those of us still in work and trying to make ends meet and pay the bills etc. (And indeed those of us approaching pension age without the benefit of the same opportunities the older generation enjoyed).

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 24 Oct 22 7.34am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Nothing is stable anymore.
Short termism rules.
Bit like 8th -20th in the Premier.
Nobody really has a clue what will happen next.

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 24 Oct 22 7.44am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Nothing is stable anymore.
Short termism rules.
Bit like 8th -20th in the Premier.
Nobody really has a clue what will happen next.

Indeed. Can you imagine if the premier league entrusted its future direction to about 0.1% of the fans? The law of averages would suggest the clubs most of them would support.

As I keep saying - Tory members are l, in my opinion, a whole bunch of entitled people detached from reality. (Evidence of that? Liz Truss getting in).

Edited by Helmet46 (24 Oct 2022 7.46am)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Oct 22 8.08am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Helmet46

Indeed. Can you imagine if the premier league entrusted its future direction to about 0.1% of the fans? The law of averages would suggest the clubs most of them would support.

As I keep saying - Tory members are l, in my opinion, a whole bunch of entitled people detached from reality. (Evidence of that? Liz Truss getting in).


Edited by Helmet46 (24 Oct 2022 7.46am)

Or they are just interested in who leads the party rather than the best interests of the country, which is hardly surprising.

I doubt Labour activists consider the feelings of non Labour supporters when voting for a new leader and why should they.

This is the problem with party politics the members will only be interested in what is best for them. Let's face it most of us aren't that passionate enough to actually join a political party so those that do are hardly likely to think about the overall good of the country.

I am assuming this morning Penny Mourdant will be told to withdraw for the good of the party.

Edited by Badger11 (24 Oct 2022 8.12am)

Edited by Badger11 (24 Oct 2022 8.12am)

 


One more point

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 24 Oct 22 8.35am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Or they are just interested in who leads the party rather than the best interests of the country, which is hardly surprising.

I doubt Labour activists consider the feelings of non Labour supporters when voting for a new leader and why should they.

This is the problem with party politics the members will only be interested in what is best for them. Let's face it most of us aren't that passionate enough to actually join a political party so those that do are hardly likely to think about the overall good of the country.

I am assuming this morning Penny Mourdant will be told to withdraw for the good of the party.

Edited by Badger11 (24 Oct 2022 8.12am)

Edited by Badger11 (24 Oct 2022 8.12am)

So broadly speaking I agree with that. However, being interested in who leads the party - when that person will become PM should require a slightly wider viewpoint with the blinkers removed and a little bit more intelligence.

Regardless of the party (Labour/Conservative etc), or the person etc politicians have the uncanny ability to turn everything into a clusterf***.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 24 Oct 22 8.56am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Hopefully it will be over by this afternoon as some of the posts in this thread are getting more and more stupid

 

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