I must admit to reminding labour supporters on FB who are bleating and crying about no mandate and demanding a general election that the last time labour were in power gordon (stupid) brown became PM in exactly the same way and stayed for 2.5 years.

One even said but this is different!!! What because its not the party you support doing it!

We need to give Rishi a chance. He predicted what would happen if truss reduced tax as she did and he was totally right.

lets hope he can turn things around,

It was the last time and would normally be.

However, there is no legal reason to and extremely important reasons why whether it is respected must be left to the conscience of our representatives.

Nothing is cast in stone. Events, time and new information changes things.

In my opinion it did with Brexit. We voted in 2016, with a very close result. By 2019 we all knew the “oven ready” deal was a myth. We knew our security forces felt that foreign interference had rendered the result so tarnished they wanted the government to run it again. It had turned into a circus, which was resolved with marketing slogans.

MPs understood that but only some were prepared to risk the political jeopardy that voting for a confirmatory vote involved. So they failed us.

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And aren't MPs the ones who got us into this state? They didn't understand much there did they?
The public were convinced by slogans? It's a wonder they're allowed to vote in the first place.
No wonder Russia is such a success when they engineered Brexit and the Trump victory. Is there nothing they can't do?

In my opinion it's not so much the MPs themselves, who necessarily are a inhomogeneous group anyway, as the system we have. The various conventions and practices which have developed over time and which deserve to be scrutinised and then revised to ensure they remain fit for purpose.

The reason we use a representative democracy is to have people with the time and access to information and advice to study issues in depth and come to informed conclusions on our behalf.

When you put the decisions directly in the hands of the people then they become subject to all the influences they face before making any decision. They include advertising and marketing, the MSM, some of which takes up positions based on the personal attitudes of owners and, these days, social media, which is largely unregulated and has been used by malign foreign actors to sow dissatisfaction and propaganda.

The result of which is that we are likely to get untrustworthy results, especially in any that are close run.

The MPs are better placed to ignore the noise and concentrate on the substance.

So do we want our country run by "influencers", or those we choose to represent us?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Credit to the BBC interviewer who stopped Emily midstream the other morning when she was spouting her party line on Rishi having no mandate and we should have a General Election now.

"Yes Emily, we've all heard that before, now instead why not tell the viewers what Labour would do in this situation?"

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

There are quite a few remoaners that will spout " foreign interference " nonsense. They try to legitimise their nonsense by throwing in some spurious " security sources " rubbish.

Let them spout I say, just makes them look more ridiculous

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.