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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 30 Dec 22 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

There is no such thing as a pro abortion Catholic.

It makes as much sense as an alcoholic Muslim.

At best they can be called part cultural.

The left just love re-defining categories and diluting because they seek to destroy anything that isn't in their own image.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Dec 2022 10.46pm)

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 30 Dec 22 11.25pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Have you ever encountered the type of Catholic this lady appears to be?

I have and I can assure you it’s an unusual experience. They are so totally indoctrinated that alternative opinions are met with blank stares of disbelief. They simply cannot comprehend how anyone can disagree with them.

If you think Islamic fundamentalists are beyond reason then you will have an idea of the rigidity of these types. I

Of course it’s not all Catholics. It’s only a tiny minority. Most are kind, caring people with good hearts. There are a few though who are seriously scarey, especially when it comes to abortion.

Sadthetic irrelevance

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 30 Dec 22 11.25pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

This is one of the more stupid posts you have made, and the competition is stiff

Do you think this puerile rubbish contributes to any discussion ?

Edited by HKOwen (30 Dec 2022 9.51pm)

Come on now. The question has to be asked. Would you?

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 31 Dec 22 12.01am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There is no such thing as a pro abortion Catholic.

It makes as much sense as an alcoholic Muslim.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Dec 2022 10.46pm)

The former is anybody in Sinn Fein.

The latter , I saw many of on holiday in the hotel bar of Muslim countries.

But it's not a problem cos lots of egalitarian lefties are wealthy & spoilt

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 31 Dec 22 12.19am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

The former is anybody in Sinn Fein.

The latter , I saw many of on holiday in the hotel bar of Muslim countries.

But it's not a problem cos lots of egalitarian lefties are wealthy & spoilt

There are certainly many who like to stake the claim.

Such is life, many pretenders but mostly cultural rather than actual.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 31 Dec 22 3.16am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Aren’t you eloquent

To repeat. It was risible to suggest the police officer have a quiet word with this lady

You may not be aware that she effectively forced him to arrest her as she refused to ‘come quietly’.

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She told us that she has spent 20 years picketing abortion clinics, every week. Why do you think she would stop on this occasion? No matter how kind and polite the Police Officer was. It was she that ‘planted’ the line ‘I may be praying in my head’ so that the media could bay that this was a thought crime.

Her backer, Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF, formerly Alliance Defense Fund) is an American conservative Christian legal advocacy group that works to curtail rights for LGBTQ people; expand Christian practices within public schools and in government; and outlaw abortion. It certainly appears that this was a pre-scripted stunt to give ADF a boost to its coverage.

If he did attempt to have her ‘come quietly’ and she did not, as you have stated, that then entirety dismisses your assertion that my suggesting of this was ‘risible’, as that was actually what happened. As you have also hypothesised and therefore shown an acknowledgment of the probability, I was unaware.

I took the story as was presented given I had no intention nor burning desire to iresearch the matter in any great depth. I treat such threads conversationally and not as academic or investigative ventures. I would consider that a healthier approach for somebody in my position however if others approach through a different lens, due to their own circumstances, I can happily accept that.

It may well be that whilst presented as a woman arrested for ‘praying in her head’ it is actually the arrest of a well known troublemaker, for lack of articulation, attending an area subject to an order very much designed to prevent the presence of peoples looking to cause problems. As suggested, I think the notion that she very much planned and orchestrated for this to play out in the manner it has, is most likely accurate.

Returning to my original point however, the assumed intentions of a person, no matter how likely to be correct, is a very dangerous and precarious position for a police force to take. I would strongly suggest she was arrested on the presumption that her antics, again for lack of articulation, could escalate but also as they were deemed to conflict with the intended protection of this building and its attendees. My view is that she knew she was flirting on the peripheries, if not operating within the grey, of the law here.

It’s the manner of the policing and the precedent being set here that I find troubling. For an anecdote, there’s a small cohort of local drug addicts that hang out near the commercial estate not far from me. They have nicked from shops before, they do so on regular occasions no doubt and whilst the membership of that group does see regular churn, the police do not nab them for loitering despite them doing so virtually daily.

As to why they were so desperate or quick to arrest this woman, when the aforementioned is just one example of many near on ubiquitous occurrences that go seemingly unresolved by police, is curious if not worrying for me. It is representative, just for me, of their ideological identity superseding their policing one. That is just my subjective interpretation but I suspect a correct one.

I’ll thank you for the compliment, which would be great given that was in response to one of many posts I have tapped out, on my phone, without my bins, in my own personal Elba, courtesy of my wife, whilst having a cigarette or two. if it was a sarcastic comment however, I’d recommend perhaps boxing, any other contact sport, weightlifting, or anything to boost testosterone or confidence in one’s own self in general. This will aid the avoidance of presenting oneself so publicly as being insecure to the extent of needing to try and goad other males through an online platform where you are safe from any potential real world, physical consequences. That’s only if it was of course and my advice whilst not absolutely reliable, is only a quick offering for anybody who may find it useful. If in need of serious intervention, I’d consult a physician as a start.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 31 Dec 22 9.26am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There is no such thing as a pro abortion Catholic.

It makes as much sense as an alcoholic Muslim.

At best they can be called part cultural.

The left just love re-defining categories and diluting because they seek to destroy anything that isn't in their own image.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Dec 2022 10.46pm)

I don’t know anyone who is pro-abortion. I know many who regard it as a least w orse option in certain circumstances, including lots of Catholics.

The kind of lady under discussion would regard such Catholics as CINOs. Catholics in name only. They have an approach to their religion as out of date as are your politics.

Which, of course, they are entitled to but what they aren’t is to impose their standards on anyone else. Anymore than you are your politics.

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 31 Dec 22 11.11am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Clearly a mind reader at work as he knows what someone else thinks.

Usual risible gibberish

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 31 Dec 22 11.25am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

If he did attempt to have her ‘come quietly’ and she did not, as you have stated, that then entirety dismisses your assertion that my suggesting of this was ‘risible’, as that was actually what happened. As you have also hypothesised and therefore shown an acknowledgment of the probability, I was unaware.

I took the story as was presented given I had no intention nor burning desire to iresearch the matter in any great depth. I treat such threads conversationally and not as academic or investigative ventures. I would consider that a healthier approach for somebody in my position however if others approach through a different lens, due to their own circumstances, I can happily accept that.

It may well be that whilst presented as a woman arrested for ‘praying in her head’ it is actually the arrest of a well known troublemaker, for lack of articulation, attending an area subject to an order very much designed to prevent the presence of peoples looking to cause problems. As suggested, I think the notion that she very much planned and orchestrated for this to play out in the manner it has, is most likely accurate.

Returning to my original point however, the assumed intentions of a person, no matter how likely to be correct, is a very dangerous and precarious position for a police force to take. I would strongly suggest she was arrested on the presumption that her antics, again for lack of articulation, could escalate but also as they were deemed to conflict with the intended protection of this building and its attendees. My view is that she knew she was flirting on the peripheries, if not operating within the grey, of the law here.

It’s the manner of the policing and the precedent being set here that I find troubling. For an anecdote, there’s a small cohort of local drug addicts that hang out near the commercial estate not far from me. They have nicked from shops before, they do so on regular occasions no doubt and whilst the membership of that group does see regular churn, the police do not nab them for loitering despite them doing so virtually daily.

As to why they were so desperate or quick to arrest this woman, when the aforementioned is just one example of many near on ubiquitous occurrences that go seemingly unresolved by police, is curious if not worrying for me. It is representative, just for me, of their ideological identity superseding their policing one. That is just my subjective interpretation but I suspect a correct one.

I’ll thank you for the compliment, which would be great given that was in response to one of many posts I have tapped out, on my phone, without my bins, in my own personal Elba, courtesy of my wife, whilst having a cigarette or two. if it was a sarcastic comment however, I’d recommend perhaps boxing, any other contact sport, weightlifting, or anything to boost testosterone or confidence in one’s own self in general. This will aid the avoidance of presenting oneself so publicly as being insecure to the extent of needing to try and goad other males through an online platform where you are safe from any potential real world, physical consequences. That’s only if it was of course and my advice whilst not absolutely reliable, is only a quick offering for anybody who may find it useful. If in need of serious intervention, I’d consult a physician as a start.

OK, this is going to take some responding to.

For now, let me say:

1) No, I was not being sarcastic. You are erudite, I find impressively so
2) The Police Officer had no choice other than to try the softly softly approach
3) He may or may not have known the history at the time. The lady is facing four similar charges. I am reasonably sure from what I have read that the days on which she was arrested were simply the tip of the iceberg and she had picketed the clinic week after week. She herself appears to say that
4) Why do you therefore say that the Police were desperate and/or quick to arrest this lady? They attended due to a complaint, which came following several arrests. Should they have ignored that? I do not think that saying they had better things to do is appropriate. They should in theory be able to deal with all that is needed. If they prioritised, which I doubt, perhaps they saw it was a pretty open and shut case. She is a serial offender and it may well have been getting close to someone lumping her.

You should give up cigarettes.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 31 Dec 22 11.26am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Clearly a mind reader at work as he knows what someone else thinks.

Usual risible gibberish

Don't nick my word

 

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View berlinpalace's Profile berlinpalace Flag berlin 31 Dec 22 11.56am Send a Private Message to berlinpalace Add berlinpalace as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You don't know this woman, yet you attack her.

Besides it can hardly be said that feminism and neo liberal politics has really helped women. The fact that they are significantly less happy than their fifties counterparts seems to be an inconvenient truth.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Dec 2022 9.52pm)


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 31 Dec 22 1.56pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

I like that link

 

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