If there are old people who own a property and need care then they should pay for it. It goes back to what I posted ages ago. An entitled society. Many won’t have the means to pay so go in a social home which may well be a lower standard. A bit like shopping in Poundland or M+S. in the bigger picture one is of a higher standard than the other.
I am in the owner bracket but still understand it could be me having to pay. The issue is the kids who feel that mum n dad should set them up for life. Feck em I say. If they haven’t got the compassion to do the best in whichever way for their parents then do they deserve anything at the end?

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I agree with most of what you say and one way or another private health needs to be called upon asap and be allowed to help out as long as the right deal is done - in other words not just "name your price because we are in the doo doo"!
Councils do need to be held responsible as well though because they waste millions every year as well.
Public service money wasting isright up there with the worst - other peoples money - they are either too stupid or they don't care - or both!

Well that is a subjectivel opinion on what value a person is. Of course we could force all bankers to be paid minium wage and all nurses be on six figures but the economy would soon collapse.

I spent my career in banking generally speaking bonuses were only given to people who deserved them. If you made your company £1m why shouldn't you share in it.

Banks have employed huge numbers of people over the generations they could only do this because they made profits, those profits of course fund the NHS and social care etc.

In 2008 the system collapsed and the taxpayer had to bail them out. Since then the taxpayer has recovered most of that money. The financial services sector has been a major earner for the country for generations apart from that bad year.

Meanwhile we had decades after decades of failing heavy industries that cost us a fortune and we never got that money back.

As for Mick Lynch don't like the man but his salary is between him and his union.

One more point

I am no fan of local councils and their employees. It's where you go to let your CV quietly die. But let's not forget they are overseen by the NAO, ombudsman and directly by Parliament

Also remember that local authorities don't have the ability to fully fund themselves and rely on central government grants that keep getting radically cut, especially if it involves a non-Conservative controlled council.

If I thought that Labour could fix any of this, I'd vote for them

You know full well that they won't.

You cannot just fix the fall out from a pandemic and you can't just ignore what mass immigration is doing to this country, what ever the claimed benefits.
The NHS is one victim of that. It has to cater for more and more people, including an increasingly ageing population. It is also expected to cover a wider range of services. Right now we have huge numbers of ill people and despite that, nurses are striking for a ridiculous pay increase.

The current inflation crisis has nothing to do with government policy. I'm sure Labour would have already agreed to the ridiculous inflation stoking wage demands of the big unions.