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View Plaistow Eagle's Profile Plaistow Eagle Flag 15 Jan 23 5.26pm Send a Private Message to Plaistow Eagle Add Plaistow Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by radsyrendot

Losing faith in PVA

That’s a sticky subject as he left 2 years ago..!!

COYP

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 15 Jan 23 5.27pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

I have a hunch that the way is being paved for Derry to take over, PV seems to make the same mistakes over and over, and Derry has experience with the youth.

Derry has failed as a manager in the lower leagues more than once so what makes you think he would be a success in the much tougher Premier League

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 15 Jan 23 5.28pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Swindy

This team & squad needs serious strengthening but sadly Mr Parish doesn’t appear to see it like that.

He probably does but reading between the lines of what he says the club is skint and can't afford to buy anyone

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Jan 23 5.30pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Derry has failed as a manager in the lower leagues more than once so what makes you think he would be a success in the much tougher Premier League

Relieved of his duties at Notts Co, and left Camb Utd by mutual consent after they only won 2 of their last 10 league games.

Edited by Willo (15 Jan 2023 5.35pm)

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 15 Jan 23 5.31pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Derry has failed as a manager in the lower leagues more than once so what makes you think he would be a success in the much tougher Premier League

None at all. Derry was suggested by another user as PV's replacement and I think Parish may have trouble recruiting a replacement of the calibre to keep us in the PL, so...

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 15 Jan 23 5.36pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Relieved of his duties at Notts Co, and left Camb Utd by mutual consent after they only won 2 of their last 10 league games.

Edited by Willo (15 Jan 2023 5.35pm)

I don't know If I am late to the party, but why do you add foot notes to peoples comments?

 


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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 15 Jan 23 5.37pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

None at all. Derry was suggested by another user as PV's replacement and I think Parish may have trouble recruiting a replacement of the calibre to keep us in the PL, so...

It wouldn't surprise me if they saw Southgate at England thought they could 'grow' their own manager - stick him in courses, get him working from the bottom up and have an ethos.

 


This was once a quality forum....

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View Swindy's Profile Swindy Flag Bromley 15 Jan 23 5.42pm Send a Private Message to Swindy Add Swindy as a friend

‘Midlands Eagle’
If we are skint, l wonder whose fault that is ??
IAlso, how much homework did he do before getting webbed up with American investors who appear not to want to - let’s not forget the freak spending of Summer 2021 came from funding from Mr Textor.
Perhaps SP needs to talk to ‘bigger boys’.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 15 Jan 23 5.44pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

This will prove to be a blessing, as we can start from scratch with sensibly priced youngsters. In the meantime drop those who clearly are not up for the battle ahead; in particular Zaha and Eze who offer next to nothing. I have a hunch that the way is being paved for Derry to take over, PV seems to make the same mistakes over and over, and Derry has experience with the youth.

I agree that those players going out contract will be a blessing but there is no guarantee that Parish won't extend some and frankly those who are out of contract are either past it or the are on sick notes. However, can't see Derry being the answer either, he has no experience as far as I'm aware managing at this level. Assuming of course we don't get relegated which is now looking a real possibility.

The talent these days is scattered worldwide and I do not believe that we have the expertise or networking with Freeman and Parish to know how to source such bargains (which do exist as Brighton and Brentford seem to understand and exploit very effectively). Statistics say that our own academy will not provide anywhere near enough talent to provide us with a competitive EPL side. This means that if we are to replace those who are out of contract and fill the existing holes in the squad then the owners are going to have to splash the cash.

Then there is the added distraction of the stadium and its updating which will cost a fortune that we will be unable to do if we are in the championship and anyway what's the point of having a flash ground if its half empty because it has costs us our EPL status and revenue.

I do not know what the grounds arrangements are between CPFC 2010 and CPFC Selhurst Park Ltd, the latter is a small company that owns the ground (Directors Parish/Blitzer/Harris/Textor), the company has a Debenture secured on the ground registered in Luxembourg. So on the surface it seems that whatever happens with the football club the ground is secured for those named directors above and as we all know SE26 real estate is a great investment even in these difficult times.

What is really going on?

 

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View Brinscalleagle2's Profile Brinscalleagle2 Online Flag Brinscall 15 Jan 23 5.47pm Send a Private Message to Brinscalleagle2 Add Brinscalleagle2 as a friend

It is nice to dream but we are what we are a mid to lower league team who does not have the financial resources to achieve a higher league position. The performance today was ok and in line with what you would expect with the quality of players we have against a club with infinite resources. Until we have owners that can buy quality players at will I am afraid the narrative after every match we play win or lose is going to be the same. As it stands just enjoy supporting the team we have who is Crystal Palace and let’s not expect us to be be something we are not.COYP

 

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NE14T Flag 15 Jan 23 5.52pm

We don’t play as a team. Just a bunch of disjointed individuals who keep giving the ball away with poor touches and passes

I think we’re buggered. Parish doesn’t appear to have any money. He made a bit in the 1990’s on IT agency staff but let’s face it, he’s no Rockefeller. The Yanks seem to have little appetite to spend and who can blame them when Freedman buys donkeys like Richards for £12m. . What a dumb arse purchase that was!

Maybe it’s our time to go down. You gets what… in our case, you don’t pay for.

We stand a chance if Parish summons the guts to sack PV and his useless side-kick Osian Roberts. Get someone in who at least can make our average players play like a team.

Edited by NE14T (15 Jan 2023 5.53pm)

Edited by NE14T (15 Jan 2023 5.53pm)

 


The beatings will stop when morale improves.

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 15 Jan 23 5.54pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

I agree that those players going out contract will be a blessing but there is no guarantee that Parish won't extend some and frankly those who are out of contract are either past it or the are on sick notes. However, can't see Derry being the answer either, he has no experience as far as I'm aware managing at this level. Assuming of course we don't get relegated which is now looking a real possibility.

The talent these days is scattered worldwide and I do not believe that we have the expertise or networking with Freeman and Parish to know how to source such bargains (which do exist as Brighton and Brentford seem to understand and exploit very effectively). Statistics say that our own academy will not provide anywhere near enough talent to provide us with a competitive EPL side. This means that if we are to replace those who are out of contract and fill the existing holes in the squad then the owners are going to have to splash the cash.

Then there is the added distraction of the stadium and its updating which will cost a fortune that we will be unable to do if we are in the championship and anyway what's the point of having a flash ground if its half empty because it has costs us our EPL status and revenue.

I do not know what the grounds arrangements are between CPFC 2010 and CPFC Selhurst Park Ltd, the latter is a small company that owns the ground (Directors Parish/Blitzer/Harris/Textor), the company has a Debenture secured on the ground registered in Luxembourg. So on the surface it seems that whatever happens with the football club the ground is secured for those named directors above and as we all know SE26 real estate is a great investment even in these difficult times.

What is really going on?


Ah, your cynicism matches mine. I have wondered what the Americans seek from their investment.
As for Derry, that was slightly tongue in cheek: Lanzo suggested Derry would make a good manager, made me chuckle, so I thought "hey, let's discuss it, stranger things have happened".

 

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