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 Palace Old Geezer  Midhurst 07 Feb 23 1.10pm |
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It will make a mockery of the Premier League regulations if City get away with simply a fine thanks to a serious legal campaign. They need to pay a heavy price, and possible relegation, as a lesson to all the 'moneyed' clubs. The number and scale of the breaches they've made is staggering when you think about it. Since benefitting from the huge injections of Abu Dhabi cash the club has behaved with complete disregard (allegedly) of the rules to, effectively, buy success. All this is quite sickening when we consider how well our beloved Palace have done for a fraction of the cost. Edited by Palace Old Geezer (07 Feb 2023 2.18pm)
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 07 Feb 23 1.42pm |
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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer
It will make a mockery of the Premier League regulations if City get away with simply a fine thanks to a serious legal campaign. They need to pay a heavy price, and possible relegation, as a lesson to all the 'moneyed' clubs. The number and scale of the breaches they've made is staggering when you think about it. Since benefitting from the huge injections of Any Dhabi cash the club has behaved with complete disregard (allegedly) of the rules to, effectively, buy success. All this is quite sickening when we consider how well our beloved Palace have done for a fraction of the cost. I'll tell you what makes it worse for me P.O.G is that whilst they may not feel this way at all, if the same were to happen to Palace I would somewhat feel robbed of the club being a fan. There has to be a real connect with a team to truly love it in all it's glory and ugliness. If your club does become the plaything foreign trillionaires, people all over the world wearing the shirts instead of those you instantly deem to be kin when you notice your colours, you can't get a ticket to a league fixture let alone cup final or what have you and all of a sudden the crowd on matchday seems more fitting for the opera than a football game, I'd feel as though a huge part of my identity and an experience I absolutely cherish would have been stolen away from me. It really is football 'selling it's soul' at the end of the day for me as opposed to anything to be celebrated. As someone previously mentioned I would actually welcome a super league if it got rid of some of these teams which now better resemble corporations. My only argument against would be for the true fans who've been disaffected by this.
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| fish mitten Chelmsford 07 Feb 23 1.48pm |
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The major problem I have with FFP, is that the established 'big clubs' are in favour of it. Man Utd, Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus etc it gives them the natural advantage and means other clubs can't buy to compete with them. What's worse a complete closed shop or clubs spending obscene amounts of money to try and break into the cartel of already super rich clubs?
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| CrazyBadger Ware 07 Feb 23 2.04pm |
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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer
It will make a mockery of the Premier League regulations if City get away with simply a fine thanks to a serious legal campaign. They need to pay a heavy price, and possible relegation, as a lesson to all the 'moneyed' clubs. The number and scale of the breaches they've made is staggering when you think about it. Since benefitting from the huge injections of Any Dhabi cash the club has behaved with complete disregard (allegedly) of the rules to, effectively, buy success. All this is quite sickening when we consider how well our beloved Palace have done for a fraction of the cost. I don't think it's clear cut that MCity have broken any rules. they certainly have done the 'right thing' and have attempted to defend themselves - this is no proof on innocence, mind. Remember that The last time Uefa tried to penalise them, the court of Arbitration threw it out as the claims, originating from "Football Leaks, Der Spiegel", were said to be incomplete and biased. I hope the Premier League has not based the 'older claims' on this or other suspect sources, and that their claims can be genuinely proven. One thing is clear, FFP is in no way a means to stop clubs buying championships. Financial 'Fair' Play it is not. Nothing about it makes the league fairer.
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| Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 07 Feb 23 2.16pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I'll tell you what makes it worse for me P.O.G is that whilst they may not feel this way at all, if the same were to happen to Palace I would somewhat feel robbed of the club being a fan. There has to be a real connect with a team to truly love it in all it's glory and ugliness. If your club does become the plaything foreign trillionaires, people all over the world wearing the shirts instead of those you instantly deem to be kin when you notice your colours, you can't get a ticket to a league fixture let alone cup final or what have you and all of a sudden the crowd on matchday seems more fitting for the opera than a football game, I'd feel as though a huge part of my identity and an experience I absolutely cherish would have been stolen away from me. It really is football 'selling it's soul' at the end of the day for me as opposed to anything to be celebrated. As someone previously mentioned I would actually welcome a super league if it got rid of some of these teams which now better resemble corporations. My only argument against would be for the true fans who've been disaffected by this. I fully agree with you Nick. Or, as Willo would say 'I concur with these sentiments'. I love the family feel of our club and it would be a travesty if it were lost to money. Mind you, I wouldn't object to one of our owners lobbing £100m into the kitty right now!
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| YT Oxford 07 Feb 23 4.11pm |
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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer
I fully agree with you Nick. Or, as Willo would say 'I concur with these sentiments'. I love the family feel of our club and it would be a travesty if it were lost to money. Mind you, I wouldn't object to one of our owners lobbing £100m into the kitty right now! A perfect demonstration of the paradox that is modern football.
Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes) |
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 08 Feb 23 11.20am |
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I see the Qataris now want United. Let them have that one, very few genuine fans there. It does look like the endless money pit of a European Super League looks a more viable product so the rest of us can get back to supporting the clubs that we have a genuine connection to and can experience football in all it's relevance, as opposed to just a spectacle for those who've never really played therefore understood the game. I'd far sooner see our little patch of London play against a team from a little patch of t'north in a true geographical if not cultural battle than the 'Qatari Reds' play the 'Saudi Arabian Magpies' or 'Sceptic Blues'. Edited by Nicholas91 (08 Feb 2023 11.20am)
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| Stirlingsays 12 Feb 23 6.33am |
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Interesting summary of the situation.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 16 Feb 23 8.42am |
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I saw (via the BBC's football page) that Simon Jordan has said 'Nobody wants to see City neutered like a dog' on the back of the Daily Mail. I thought to myself 'my name is not Nobody'.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Feb 23 12.25pm |
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I don't care at all what happens to any of the fake rich clubs. That now includes Newcastle. The stadiums can burn down for all I care, or they can piss off to a super league. All the same to me.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 16 Feb 23 6.33pm |
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it was nice to see Arsenal getting dissected
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cryrst  The garden of England 16 Feb 23 7.41pm |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I saw (via the BBC's football page) that Simon Jordan has said 'Nobody wants to see City neutered like a dog' on the back of the Daily Mail. I thought to myself 'my name is not Nobody'. Great movie though. He’s a tough cookie
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