What you support is fantasy.

Nothing you post is interesting anyway. People could just watch CNN or just read the Guardian for most of your opinions. You just shill for the social liberal establishment.

But the fantasy is the harmful aspect. That's the problem with the left and neo liberals. Their policies are idealism based rather than realism based and that's why hundreds of millions have died unnecessarily in the past and why hundreds of thousands have died here in this latest avoidable war.

As for the suggestion that I avoid questions I find that beyond ridiculous. I have probably commented on this war more than anyone else on the thread. I've probably answered every point put to me at least once....many of them multiple times and its tiresome repeating myself to different posters.

This suggestion that I'm required to continually repeat myself to every point someone makes isn't only hyprocritical....as these people pick and choose themselves but it's also unrealistic as they aren't really interested anyway.

If someone genuinely wants to know my view on a specific question then they can just ask that specific question of me. However, making ten points within a post and then complaining that I don't respond to them all is just another waffle tactic.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Feb 2023 2.33am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The description of a 'war' at times (given my access to media outlets) , seems more akin to the Russians just trying to demolish everything in Ukraine. There seems to be no coherent strategy to the Russian advances, other than to smash everything in it's path.
It's advances seem to only follow the paths of least resistance and not any strategic formula.
How does smashing hospitals, bridges, factories and residential buildings give the 'victor' anything worth winning ?

I could of course be pl55ing in the wind, like most viewers reliant on an agenda-ridden media.

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

Your logic is so twisted that exactly the opposite of your beliefs is true.

What you support is far from fantasy. History teaches the consequences of appeasement. Some of us have lived long enough to understand what that is, and it isn’t idealism. The only fantasy is the idea that doing the same thing will produce a different result. This is, of course, a classic definition of madness.

The realty is that we have to confront this at some time and doing it early produces a less bad outcome than doing it late. We should be proud that NATO and the west in general, just recovering from a pandemic, had both the wisdom to recognise this and the resolve to tackle it. Voices such as yours are not just an unwelcome distraction, they are an active impediment to success which, in a society such as Russia’s, would have long since been muted, quite possibly permanently.

That almost all the MSM, including the right wing press, have reached a similar conclusion is hardly a surprise. That a few in dark corners of the “alternative” media have’t is to be expected when they are wrong on everything else.

You don’t avoid all questions! You divert and use insult when faced with reasoned logic for which you have no answer. You have done it for years, on a variety of subjects, to a number of posters. On many forums you would have been outed long ago for such behaviour.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Vladimir Putin has just done an interview with Russia-1 TV channel, he made a number of statements. This is interesting insomuch as they were also obviously intended for western leaders to understand his current viewpoints.

His views and commentary can be summarised, thus:

- The unity of the people of Russia is the main condition for all the victories and achievements of the country;

- Russia should take into account the nuclear potential not only of the United States, but also of all other NATO countries (France and Great Britain), when the alliance considers the strategic defeat of Russia as its main goal;

- The West has one goal - to eliminate the Russian Federation;

- US satellites have joined the fight against the Russian Federation, but are aware of the selfishness of Washington's intentions;

- The West could accept Russia into the "family of civilized peoples" only in parts;

- The Russian people, if the West succeeds in destroying the Russian Federation and establishing control over its fragments, it may not survive: “there will be Muscovites, Urals and others”;

- The world must change, but Russia is against building a new world in the interests of only one country - the United States;

- The Russian Federation will not behave like the United States in relation to other countries;

- Russia is the successor of the USSR in the legal sense, but it has a different potential;

- NATO deliveries of weapons to Ukraine - this is participation in the conflict, because the West does not receive money for these weapons;

- France was humiliated by the Americans in the situation with the cancellation of the order for submarines for Australia, but did nothing against it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I don't use the BBS because I don't like the presentation. However, I have dipped in from time to time. To describe it as a
"a hotbed of loony leftists" is very informative. About you, and not the BBS! The posters there seem normal, balanced individuals. It certainly doesn't have the cabal of hard right posters which is found here, but that isn't the same at all. I am not surprised they booted you.

I have no desire to see you removed from here. My desire is to see you posting in a more restrained, polite and objective way, without the personal insults.

My attitude about the war is very far from deluded. I have watched it for a year and am as aware as anyone here what terrible things are happening. All of which can be laid at only one door. The Ukrainians want to fight this aggression. It's our duty to support them. There is nothing deluded about doing so.

Appeasement is the absolute reverse of peace making. It's the total opposite. It simply prolongs the agony and extends the conflict. We all want peace, but one we can rely on and which lasts.

No-one in the west, and certainly not me, should be actively participating. We are supporting the Ukrainians in their war. Not fighting ours.

This needs to be said time and time again so the lies that Putin tells in your follow-up post, and which his unwitting mouthpieces like you provide comfort for, can be exposed as the nonsense they are. The west is not attacking Russia. It has no interest in seeing them destroyed. It only seeks to support those who are attacked by them. Nato is a defence alliance.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

God, a frigging tutorial for growing lettuce would have been more interesting than reading that.

Rather than a continual back and forth boring myself sh1tless responding to your boomer takes I'll let the rather obvious events to come detail just how out of touch with reality your rhetoric is.

It would be kind of nice in some respects if the world worked this way but it looks like you'll be smelling some unwelcome coffee at the end of this.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Feb 2023 12.46pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)