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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Mar 23 12.29pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And it was "their" considered decision to both offer the Brexit referendum and to act on the result.

No it wasn't. It was the result of our current system in which MPs are pressurised by whips to vote with the government, or suffer unpleasant consequences. If a secret vote had been available do you seriously think the result would have been the same? I don't.

 

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Originally posted by georgenorman

I would love to hear your observations on my character.

There is no publication date in the dictionary. I’m not telling you when my mother gave it to me as, for all I know, you could be sat in a tin-hut in Nigeria who, inbetween sending out emails asking people for help in transferring vast sums of money into their bank accounts, tries to obtain personal information for fraudulent purposes.

Then you are going to be disappointed, because I generally keep my own counsel on such matters. Only in exceptional circumstances do I break that rule. You aren't exceptional.

Why would the date of a gift be of any use to a Nigerian scammer? Truly a weird idea.

As this particular discussion has gone on long enough to be classified as a Hol filibuster, I think we should leave it there. I suspect everybody else did pages ago.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 03 Mar 23 12.40pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No it wasn't. It was the result of our current system in which MPs are pressurised by whips to vote with the government, or suffer unpleasant consequences. If a secret vote had been available do you seriously think the result would have been the same? I don't.

They seem perfectly capable of secretly planning to get rid of various party leaders so why not?

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

They seem perfectly capable of secretly planning to get rid of various party leaders so why not?

And have secret votes to decide the new one, whilst publicly supporting someone if they choose to announce a preference.

That's what I want to see in parliament too. Abandon the antiquated lobby system and introduce polling machines, or an intranet system, which records votes anonymously.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 03 Mar 23 12.50pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

And have secret votes to decide the new one, whilst publicly supporting someone if they choose to announce a preference.

That's what I want to see in parliament too. Abandon the antiquated lobby system and introduce polling machines, or an intranet system, which records votes anonymously.

Fair enough. Others are reluctant to put so much faith in people doing a job which requires no experience or qualifications.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Fair enough. Others are reluctant to put so much faith in people doing a job which requires no experience or qualifications.

But is a job in which they, or you or I if we did it, have access to, and time to consult, those with experience and qualifications in specialised fields. Which isn't what you and I have now.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 03 Mar 23 1.21pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

But is a job in which they, or you or I if we did it, have access to, and time to consult, those with experience and qualifications in specialised fields. Which isn't what you and I have now.

OK, but I wouldn't visit a doctor on those grounds.
Wouldn't secret ballots create opportunities for corruption?

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Then you are going to be disappointed, because I generally keep my own counsel on such matters. Only in exceptional circumstances do I break that rule. You aren't exceptional.

Why would the date of a gift be of any use to a Nigerian scammer? Truly a weird idea.

As this particular discussion has gone on long enough to be classified as a Hol filibuster, I think we should leave it there. I suspect everybody else did pages ago.

You could work out my year of birth as I said it was given to me when I started senior school.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

OK, but I wouldn't visit a doctor on those grounds.
Wouldn't secret ballots create opportunities for corruption?

They could, but ways can be devised to mitigate the potential. For instance should corruption be suspected an independent investigation could be made which had access to the voting record.

Such opportunities exist now, via MPs being sponsored by Trades Unions or industry interests. I would ban all such sponsorships.

 

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Originally posted by georgenorman

You could work out my year of birth as I said it was given to me when I started senior school.

Why would a scammer be interested in that? It's pretty easy to find out anyway, if you really want to. I don't regard it as a secret at all. I was born in 1944.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Why would a scammer be interested in that? It's pretty easy to find out anyway, if you really want to. I don't regard it as a secret at all. I was born in 1944.

Shouldn't your father have been off fighting the fascists?

 

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Originally posted by georgenorman

Shouldn't your father have been off fighting the fascists?

the Brits who fought WWII. fought to protect Britain. To prevent it being invaded and owned by hordes of foreign men. To prevent the annihilation of the old British nation. To prevent fanatics & bigots taking over.

many of those Brits are in graveyards in places like Arnhem. Now remind me again what they were fighting for ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (04 Mar 2023 9.42am)

 


the 'Net-We-had' at the Etihad....again

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