If that were true nobody, me included, would care a jot. Why on earth would we?

It isn't true, for all the reasons I have patiently explained but which you consistently ignore.

Likewise, the side effects. I am bored trying to explain why you are wrong, and I expect others were pages ago, but I will make one final attempt. You take a much bigger risk from getting a severe reaction to a Covid infection by remaining unvaccinated than ever you do from any potential side effects from the vaccines, blood clots and heart issues included.

Your "science" is bs. A few days ago you referenced something from the John Hopkins University, which is accepted by me, and just about everyone else as a trustworthy source. You though completely misinterpreted it, by claiming that the appalling mortality rates it revealed supported you, when the truth is that many are very bad. Here is something else from them. This time about the safety of the vaccines and the incidence of side effects, including blood clots, which has restricted the use of one. Try and be objective when you read this! This truly is science and it unequivocally supports vaccination.

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Here is another, from the CDC, which is even more unequivocal. Just read the second page:-

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You have been like a record on autoplay. Never anything new. Just the same old tune over and over. I live in hope that when you actually read the science you will change your tune.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

In regards to my spelling Come on! You are better than than that! Stop lowering yourself to being petty.

I want you to be safe too! At the end of the day I completely respect your opinion. You are correct to get the vaccine if you feel like you need to and it protects you. I'm sure you have looked at the information and decided yourself.

I have also looked at the information and decided for the benefit of my health I do not need it. I made a completely informed decision that only affects myself. That should be the end of discussion should it not be?

As a decent human being one should never discrimate against someone. Which is what you are doing here. Discriminating against unvaccinated people over vaccinated people. If two people are in a car crash together both severely injured the same amount you would discriminate against the unvaccinated person? Or someone who has cancer and needs treatment. It's a simple yes or no answer a bit like when I asked is blood clot or heart inflammation a serious issue or not.

You obviously don't realise it, but you have just proved my point.

You don't read, or use, the science. There were 33 minutes between my post, providing two lengthy scientific articles, and your response. During which time you also wrote another response.

It's impossible that you studied the information they contained and then took the time to consider its implications.

Not only was there no time, your stupid comment about the side effects proves it in spades. Just because a side effect exists doesn't mean you need be concerned about it.

Your real concern ought to be about getting infected, suffering badly and using NHS resources you could have avoided.

That's what the kind and compassionate do for others. The selfish do their own thing because they think they know best, when the truth is they are inconsiderate bsh*tters.

I think I am done with you and this. There are always some like you. Just like a turd on a footpath the only thing to do is hold your nose and try to avoid it.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Yeah resort to insults. That is all you can muster. You have clearly lost the argument. I have read what you provided previously. Not just tonight.

Anyways I looked at the information provided and deemed for my own health that I did not need the covid vaccination. I am well within my rights to choose what to put into my own body. My decision doesn't not affect anyone else.

And 3 years I have not died from covid. What a miracle that must be over a deadly deadly virus I am still completely healthy.......snooze snooze snooze

I resort to insults to try to shake you from your undeserved complacency and make you understand how selfish you are.

You might have been lucky, but that's a poor basis for any decision.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

And this thread highlights the entire issue of Covid. People believe they are absolutely right. You have conviction of your beliefs - good for you. If you aren't a troll I feel real sympathy for people in your world, as anyone who seems to have a different opinion to you - is then "educated" and dismissed if they don't conform.

My dad died of Covid - that gives me every right to be angry with what happened as he went before the vaccine and shielded. I also saw the damage that lockdown did to his health - and another two years of shielding would have finished him off anyway had he survived. Am I angry - no. Do I think all people who don't want the vaccine are selfish - no. I have an issue with people who only got it to travel for example, but if you stick to your beliefs and didn't vaccinate then that is your right to do so. We are not a totalitarian state thank God.

I also run my own accountancy practice and I saw the damage done to the economy up front and first hand. I had three weeks off in 2 years, and I know how difficult it has been. Interestingly working for me I have two people - one is a staunch anti-vaxxer and one is very pro. The former had an experience growing up - I don't agree necessarily with her stance, but I respect it - and that is what you lack on any subject - respect for other viewpoints.

I've also just had Covid myself for the 3rd time, and I'm fully vaccinated and boosted.

The dogmatisms of all sides is reflective of how society has been. It brought out the best in 80% of people and very worst in the other 20%. I read your posts on the other threads about Trump, Brexit, Immigration and I agree with you on some points and differ on others but I have to say your entire tone is lurches between patronising, arrogant, and self-serving. As I say if you are not a troll, then how about recognising other people have different experiences. I respect and applaud the fact you are financially comfortable, live in a beautiful part of the world and are clearly intelligent - more power to you but other people are running different races and their experiences are what shape them. I don't pretend I know what it is like to live in a ghetto but I was brought up in a rough town as the son of a copper.

The town itself is working class but surrounded by affluent villages. It's a huge eastern European influx into the area which is both good and bad for the area. The fact is the problems in this town and different to the ones that you face in Cornwall - but you don't seem to recognise that and just dismiss people who aren't as worldly wise as you.

Going slightly off topic - it's people like you WE that meant Brexit/Trump happened - people I think got sick of being patronised by those who viewed themselves as the smug elite- happy to lecture. I personally think Trump is a monkey in a suit, I wouldn't vote for him, but I understand why those who did.

And looping it back into Covid, Eaglesdare summed it up best

"Once you resort to childish insults it's all over. Absolutely no need for it in an adult conversation. Why can't you respect my opinion like I completely respect yours? I don't insult you for taking the vaccine. Co my completely support your decision

.We both looked at the data, facts and proof and both made informed decisions to either get it or not get it. What's wrong with that?"

Far more elegant than most of your contributions.