I suspect we've had it this time.
Teams like Man City can beat you 9-0, so yesterday was no disgrace and that match was never going to define the season. We won't pick up any points against Brighton or Arsenal, so the struggle to get eleven more points starts after that.
And, having watched Palace for nearly sixty years, I'm not too bothered. It's just another episode, really. Heresy though it will seem, Im not too bothered which division we play in. Lots of fans who have only ever supported us as a Premiership club will drop off and it'll be back to 15,000 gates and a crap ground. But hey- ho. We've been there before. The Premiership is of course the Holy Grail, but it's no sort of competition: the big teams have all the money, get all the best players and refereeing decisions 'curiously' always seem to go in their favour. That Palace has now had a consecutive run of over ten seasons is a massive over-achievement, given the lack of gates and investment needed to achieve more, or even hang on at this level.
What is most disappointing is that it's a long while since we had a result that is unexpected- like the win at City last year. There's simply been no magic to this campaign, no excitement.
What is worrying is this failure to land a single shot on target during a match. Is it that difficult? I find the distrust of Edouard, and, for that matter, the obsession with picking Ayew, unfathomable. Why not try Edouard and Mateta from the start? You can't do worse than no strikes on goal.
So, if we go down, it won't be the worst thing. We'll have to see some home-grown players, for a change. For all the talk about our Academy, it has produced Wan-Bissaka, who earned a decent fee,and Mitchell, who isn't going to set the world alight.
I just don't see any passion or identification with the club from the present crop. There are no leaders out there, and certainly no characters. It's like we have a goalkeeper and then ten identical players in front of him.

I haven't seen anyone defending him from all criticism. There have been some like me that have taken a pragmatic position and said that if you looked at the fixtures since Christmas which ones have we lost that you wouldn't expect us to and the fact is Fulham is probably the only one and maybe Villa. We almost beat Brentford. The rest of the games getting anything would seen as a bonus. I think Vieira needs to be braver in the games against the bigger teams, but unlike Roy he does put out attacking players like Eze when we play teams he considers at our level. He does need to improve our attacking play, but we're not alone in that boat. See Wolves, Southampton and Everton for their struggles in front of goal. I still maintain the fixture list screwed us this season putting a lot of pressure on the run in, but compare ours to all the other teams below us and you have to say we should stay up. Regarding the position of "is there anyone better?" Well, that's like saying I really like Olise, but I'd swap him for another winger who scores more and creates more if they wanted to come to Palace.

Ok, fair enough, they were a bit zealous in their defence of PV! Personally, PV has some credit in the bank with me because last season was probably the best football I've seen in decades at Palace, but definitely in our current PL run. It showed what he could achieve with the right players. Before the WC people were talking about a possible push for Europe and since then we have struggled to lay a glove on the big teams, but we matched Brentford and, until the red card, looked as good as Villa. We have a win percentage of over 60% against the teams below us this season and respectable draws against Liverpool, United, and Newcastle (twice). If we were losing feebly to Southampton, Bournemouth or Leicester, for example, then I'd feel differently, but I still believe when we finally get a more favourable run of fixtures we'll get points on the board and attitudes will swing back the other way.

Speaking personally my support of Palace is not contingent on what division we are in.
I’ve supported the club for over 50 years and no doubt will continue to do so .
I’ve witnessed some dross over the years, but also had some great moments which will stay with me , and this applies through all the divisions.
I don’t view this as some romantic tosh, but a reflection of how I see things.
I would prefer that we stay up, but also acknowledge that the games this season have not been that enjoyable with very little edge of your seat stuff and there has been a dearth of attacking football and a lack of atmosphere.
Surely it’s not too much to expect for us to try and average scoring a goal a game?
This despite being in the hallowed Premier League.
There is the consolation of more media coverage , but most of it is bland nonsense with an undue focus on over hyped players.
I’m sure I could do without that.
I’m not that keen on the exorbitant pricing or VAR for that matter.
To base a business model on ‘having to stay up’ does not sound that robust to me.
I’ve made a number of scattergun points and my view may seem old fashioned, in particular to newer fans who have only known the Premier League, but there we are.