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 Teddy Eagle Online  18 Mar 23 12.34pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No-one is either changing or ignoring history, of which there are many versions depending on which prism you view it through. This is not a false narrative. It's an alternative narrative. If that was even remotely true then history wouldn't be constantly reinterpreted to reflect current right-think.
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 Hrolf The Ganger  18 Mar 23 2.50pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No-one is either changing or ignoring history, of which there are many versions depending on which prism you view it through. This is not a false narrative. It's an alternative narrative. For anyone with an ounce of foresight, this stuff would be seen for what it really is. It is an early symptom of the replacement of a culture, genetic heritage and written history of an entire people. We will be out bred, subjugated and ultimately erased from the record. All that will remain is a few random genes and a whole lot of false history and fiction written by our replacements. Opponents of reality and proponents of woke will call this a far right wing conspiracy. Well they would, wouldn't they.
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 18 Mar 23 3.21pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
For anyone with an ounce of foresight, this stuff would be seen for what it really is. It is an early symptom of the replacement of a culture, genetic heritage and written history of an entire people. We will be out bred, subjugated and ultimately erased from the record. All that will remain is a few random genes and a whole lot of false history and fiction written by our replacements. Opponents of reality and proponents of woke will call this a far right wing conspiracy. Well they would, wouldn't they. Every civilisation eventually comes to an end, either by war, natural disaster or some form of implosion. When people don’t have the ability to improve society they look back in order to justify their existence, and in doing so take society backwards instead of forwards. That’s where we are at; too many looking to correct the ‘mistakes’ of history rather than progress civilisation forward.
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 3.39pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
If that was even remotely true then history wouldn't be constantly reinterpreted to reflect current right-think. The history you perceive is not the history others do. It's not simply a matter of reinterpretation. It's that people experience things differently and pass those experiences on. There are countless examples of this, running since time began. That the books are written by the victors doesn't mean that the losers see things the same way. Just look at Brexit as an example. Our views are very different.
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| georgenorman 18 Mar 23 3.43pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The history you perceive is not the history others do. It's not simply a matter of reinterpretation. It's that people experience things differently and pass those experiences on. There are countless examples of this, running since time began. That the books are written by the victors doesn't mean that the losers see things the same way. Just look at Brexit as an example. Our views are very different. "Whoever controls the image and information of the past determines what and how future generations will think; whoever controls the information and images of the present determines how those same people will view the past." [Orwell] "And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed — if all records told the same tale — then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.' " [Orwell - 1984] Edited by georgenorman (18 Mar 2023 3.47pm)
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| Teddy Eagle Online 18 Mar 23 3.47pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The history you perceive is not the history others do. It's not simply a matter of reinterpretation. It's that people experience things differently and pass those experiences on. There are countless examples of this, running since time began. That the books are written by the victors doesn't mean that the losers see things the same way. Just look at Brexit as an example. Our views are very different. Of course history isn't set in stone because new evidence is discovered which changes the story but this is more than that - to use a very minor example there was a TV film which cast a black Ann Boleyn. In and of itself that's pretty unimportant but what are the chances of there being a White Mary Seacole?
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 4.36pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
For anyone with an ounce of foresight, this stuff would be seen for what it really is. It is an early symptom of the replacement of a culture, genetic heritage and written history of an entire people. We will be out bred, subjugated and ultimately erased from the record. All that will remain is a few random genes and a whole lot of false history and fiction written by our replacements. Opponents of reality and proponents of woke will call this a far right wing conspiracy. Well they would, wouldn't they. This is complete bs. It's nothing of the sort. Your comment is just you repeating your usual theory. That you have a particular view of history doesn't mean that everyone shares it, or that it's true. It's just yours, born from a particular set of experiences and attitudes. You are as entitled to that view as everyone else is to theirs, but you cannot deny them theirs, whether yours is that it is woke, or theirs is that yours is right wing.
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 4.42pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Of course history isn't set in stone because new evidence is discovered which changes the story but this is more than that - to use a very minor example there was a TV film which cast a black Ann Boleyn. In and of itself that's pretty unimportant but what are the chances of there being a White Mary Seacole? No idea. It would depend on the Director and the point he was trying to make. Casting actors according to their ability, and without regard to their skin colour, seems an important statement to make in the context of the general debate about the way we regard people. If it causes debate and makes people think that's all fine in my book. That's what drama is supposed to do.
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 4.45pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
"Whoever controls the image and information of the past determines what and how future generations will think; whoever controls the information and images of the present determines how those same people will view the past." [Orwell] "And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed — if all records told the same tale — then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.' " [Orwell - 1984] Edited by georgenorman (18 Mar 2023 3.47pm) I suggest that you need to consider very carefully the implications of those quotes.
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| georgenorman 18 Mar 23 4.49pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No idea. It would depend on the Director and the point he was trying to make. Casting actors according to their ability, and without regard to their skin colour, seems an important statement to make in the context of the general debate about the way we regard people. If it causes debate and makes people think that's all fine in my book. That's what drama is supposed to do. I look forward to seeing Laurence Fox playing Nelson Mandela in some film about what an unmitigated success South Africa has been since 1994.
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| georgenorman 18 Mar 23 4.53pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I suggest that you need to consider very carefully the implications of those quotes. "The most effective way to destroy a people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history." [Orwell]
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| Teddy Eagle Online 18 Mar 23 5.03pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No idea. It would depend on the Director and the point he was trying to make. Casting actors according to their ability, and without regard to their skin colour, seems an important statement to make in the context of the general debate about the way we regard people. If it causes debate and makes people think that's all fine in my book. That's what drama is supposed to do.
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