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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 May 23 7.02pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

There is zero voting fraud in the UK, I think 1 case only at the 2019 election.

What we are seeing now is the government trying to discourage young and minority groups they see as not voting conservative, from voting.

If you are 16-25 and have a photo railcard, you will not be able to vote, if you are 60+ and have an oyster card, you will.

"The new voter ID requirement will stop many young people from voting - and it seems that is by design, not by accident.

"The government has given older voters, who are more likely to vote Conservative, a large range of acceptable forms of ID, while providing very few options for young people.

The conservatives are desperate.


For months up to 17th April anyone who would be of voting age on voting day had the option and opportunity to get an ID which would allow them to vote. If they didn’t then they arnt bothered about voting. Some people get vexed on behalf of others and generally it’s the left leaning people !

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 03 May 23 6.02pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

There is zero voting fraud in the UK, I think 1 case only at the 2019 election.

What we are seeing now is the government trying to discourage young and minority groups they see as not voting conservative, from voting.

If you are 16-25 and have a photo railcard, you will not be able to vote, if you are 60+ and have an oyster card, you will.

"The new voter ID requirement will stop many young people from voting - and it seems that is by design, not by accident.

"The government has given older voters, who are more likely to vote Conservative, a large range of acceptable forms of ID, while providing very few options for young people.

The conservatives are desperate.


It's so transparent it's unbelievable.

And yet none of the champions of free speech on the right seem to have any issue with voter suppression, as long as it's in their favour.

Who needs principles.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 03 May 23 6.12pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

It's so transparent it's unbelievable.

And yet none of the champions of free speech on the right seem to have any issue with voter suppression, as long as it's in their favour.

Who needs principles.

I will ask the question again. If somebody doesn't have any id then how did they end up on the electoral roll?

To be on the electoral roll you should have to prove who you are and your nationality so the council can record which elections you are entitled to vote in.

If they are not demanding id then they are not doing their job properly if they are then what's the issue?

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 03 May 23 6.29pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I will ask the question again. If somebody doesn't have any id then how did they end up on the electoral roll?

To be on the electoral roll you should have to prove who you are and your nationality so the council can record which elections you are entitled to vote in.

If they are not demanding id then they are not doing their job properly if they are then what's the issue?

I don't recall ever providing photo ID to be on the electoral roll - I'm fairly sure I provided my NI number and name/address and that was it.


 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 03 May 23 6.38pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I don't recall ever providing photo ID to be on the electoral roll - I'm fairly sure I provided my NI number and name/address and that was it.


Exactly.

Using a National insurance number is a terrible idea there are literally millions of fraudulent ones out there but some councils don't care that the voter is not entitled to be in this country or is not who he says he is or is entitled to be here but is not a British citizen so only allowed to vote in certain elections.

These checks should be done properly by councils before elections so I wonder if those that are complaining don't actually have an id that matches the entry on the electoral roll.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 03 May 23 6.47pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Free Speech........the thread is about Free Speech

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 May 23 8.44am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Free Speech........the thread is about Free Speech

It's somewhat ironic that the greatest threats to free speech within the modern west turned out to be the social liberals.

Social liberalism in practical real world terms is largely a well funded conglomerate of NGOs and lobbyists who now feed an idealogically similar and cucked raft of mainstream media their talking points and even write policy agendas for politicians.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 May 23 8.57am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's somewhat ironic that the greatest threats to free speech within the modern west turned out to be the social liberals.

Social liberalism in practical real world terms is largely a well funded conglomerate of NGOs and lobbyists who now feed an idealogically similar and cucked raft of mainstream media their talking points and even write policy agendas for politicians.

You have some very strange ideas. There's more opportunity these days for everyone to express their opinion than ever there has been before. What you are complaining about is that the MSM don't share the views that you personally hold. Which for me is perfectly understandable. Doesn't stop you, or anyone else, from expressing them. They find ways out and if people want to hear them, they will.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 04 May 23 1.16pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You have some very strange ideas. There's more opportunity these days for everyone to express their opinion than ever there has been before. What you are complaining about is that the MSM don't share the views that you personally hold. Which for me is perfectly understandable. Doesn't stop you, or anyone else, from expressing them. They find ways out and if people want to hear them, they will.

try that in ireland and enjoy some jail-time. The new legislation makes us look like The Soviet Union.

 


the 'Net-We-had' at the Etihad....again

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 May 23 1.27pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

try that in ireland and enjoy some jail-time. The new legislation makes us look like The Soviet Union.


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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 04 May 23 2.50pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

That is very, very scary.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 04 May 23 6.27pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

That is very, very scary.

Ireland has gone from the most Conservative Catholic country to the most Radical Liberal Left hellhole in the blink of an eye.

and all enforced with bully-boy tactics.

Freedom of speech ? forget it.

 


the 'Net-We-had' at the Etihad....again

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