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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 04 May 23 8.03pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Tbh M, I don't think she will be any good for Labour anyway.


Nicely swerved!

But in terms of her appointment...depends what you want from a Labour Government.

My own take on it is that the primary aim of any Starmer led Government will be around reversing Brexit with any and everything else secondary. And this lady will play a crucial part in that happening.

But I also concede I can be a paranoid lunatic, seeing Rejoiners around each and every corner so that must be taken into account.

However, Starmer is a 100% bought and paid for Washington/Deep State stooge. So no matter what, I suspect there will be nothing major in terms of wider UK-specific structural politics changing.
This is not a C.O.S that will be leading the charge for any kind of 'Reddening' of UK PLC.

Maybe a bit more froth, a few more bows on various political packages and a Left who will just happily ignore all kinds of things if it comes with a Labour branding because all they define themselves as, in the majority, is being anti-Tory rather than anything else.

Edited by Matov (04 May 2023 8.05pm)

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 04 May 23 11.08pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


Another anti-Labour smear job.


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 04 May 23 11.17pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Nicely swerved!

But in terms of her appointment...depends what you want from a Labour Government.

My own take on it is that the primary aim of any Starmer led Government will be around reversing Brexit with any and everything else secondary. And this lady will play a crucial part in that happening.

But I also concede I can be a paranoid lunatic, seeing Rejoiners around each and every corner so that must be taken into account.

However, Starmer is a 100% bought and paid for Washington/Deep State stooge. So no matter what, I suspect there will be nothing major in terms of wider UK-specific structural politics changing.
This is not a C.O.S that will be leading the charge for any kind of 'Reddening' of UK PLC.

Maybe a bit more froth, a few more bows on various political packages and a Left who will just happily ignore all kinds of things if it comes with a Labour branding because all they define themselves as, in the majority, is being anti-Tory rather than anything else.

Edited by Matov (04 May 2023 8.05pm)

It is blindingly obvious that reversing Brexit is against the interests of Washington.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 05 May 23 12.20am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Another anti-Labour smear job.


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Haha!
Even the Guardian has it in for him now!
The works are turning!!

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 05 May 23 6.07am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

It is blindingly obvious that reversing Brexit is against the interests of Washington.


How on earth do you reach that conclusion? Washington wants the UK very much in the EU for all sort of reasons, not least the fact that the UK was a major thorn in its side when it came to trying to become stronger.

We have a major European war fought on the basis of Washington fearing how strong both Germany and Russia might become if they were allowed to buy and sell gas from each other.

And a strong Germany means a strong EU.

Washington threw the kitchen sink at keeping us in the EU. Or have you forgotten Obama's intervention? Went against all accepted diplomatic protocol.

Brexit helped Trump. Undoubtably. But he is not Washington. And Capitol Hill very much wants the UK back in Brussels, throwing all kinds of spanners into the works.

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 05 May 23 10.24am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Tbh M, I don't think she will be any good for Labour anyway.


How's your reply on support for the EHRC report on anti semitism and condemnation of the Guardian cartoon coming along?

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Originally posted by HKOwen

How's your reply on support for the EHRC report on anti semitism and condemnation of the Guardian cartoon coming along?

Blimey, I know you think it's your golden bullet, but you don't half go on about that report.

 

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I am on topic, and the problem with Sir Keir is not his seeming lack of policies and because he is a lawyer.

It's his haircut, it reminds me of some character out of Dickens but I can't think who.

Sunak's is rubbish too.

Smarmy haircuts, Sunak looks like an asian ted with drainpipes and pointed shoes.

When he turns a corner, you think he will go straight on.


 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

I am on topic, and the problem with Sir Keir is not his seeming lack of policies and because he is a lawyer.

It's his haircut, it reminds me of some character out of Dickens but I can't think who.

Sunak's is rubbish too.

Smarmy haircuts, Sunak looks like an asian ted with drainpipes and pointed shoes.

When he turns a corner, you think he will go straight on.


Bob cratchet in one of the remakes

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 05 May 23 7.15pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

It's his haircut, it reminds me of some character out of Dickens but I can't think who.



Uriah Heep?


 


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I have just thought:- Wilkins Micawber. (David Copperfield)

Welcome poverty!..Welcome misery, welcome houselessness, welcome hunger, rags, tempest, and beggary! Mutual confidence will sustain us to the end!

Something, (in short) will turn up!

He knew far more than the Adam Smith Institute.

 

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Originally posted by Matov


How on earth do you reach that conclusion? Washington wants the UK very much in the EU for all sort of reasons, not least the fact that the UK was a major thorn in its side when it came to trying to become stronger.

We have a major European war fought on the basis of Washington fearing how strong both Germany and Russia might become if they were allowed to buy and sell gas from each other.

And a strong Germany means a strong EU.

Washington threw the kitchen sink at keeping us in the EU. Or have you forgotten Obama's intervention? Went against all accepted diplomatic protocol.

Brexit helped Trump. Undoubtably. But he is not Washington. And Capitol Hill very much wants the UK back in Brussels, throwing all kinds of spanners into the works.

Obama was Obama. He saw the scale of the act of self harm

But the US loves the idea that the UK is becoming even more captive to its economy. And it is grooming Ireland to be its EU bridgehead. Doesn’t need the UK to do that any more

 

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