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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 06 May 23 8.58am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

My daughter has just won her seat for Labour on one of the Brighton wards.

The shame of it

Which ward? My son is at university there

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 06 May 23 9.13am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

You keep banging on about Brexit, but if the terms of reentry included, amongst others, adopting the Euro do you think most people would vote for it??

No. Because no government in the UK would accept such terms and should they first decide to consult the people directly in an advisory referendum it would not therefore be an option.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 06 May 23 9.18am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And the wisdom of letting these brainless oiks decide on who should be in parliament. These decisions should be left to clever people like MPs.

That has to be done in a democracy. Even the brainless have a right to an opinion on who should represent them. We can though, of course, change our minds every 5 years. I would happily settle for the same deal on Brexit, if it was practical to do so, which it clearly isn't.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

Many would have voted remain !

For stupid reasons!

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 06 May 23 9.22am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by YT

What the f*** has a 16th century proverb got to do with anything?

What has 16th century got to do with it? It's as pertinent today as at any other time!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 06 May 23 9.53am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

For stupid reasons!

I don’t understand your logic. You berate leavers but in other posts remainers are great. Did they need a reason? Clearly not had your meds

Edited by cryrst (06 May 2023 9.53am)

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 06 May 23 9.54am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That has to be done in a democracy. Even the brainless have a right to an opinion on who should represent them. We can though, of course, change our minds every 5 years. I would happily settle for the same deal on Brexit, if it was practical to do so, which it clearly isn't.

Must be brainless to vote for such incompetent and/or corrupt nonentities.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 06 May 23 10.38am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What has 16th century got to do with it? It's as pertinent today as at any other time!

Pertinent in what way?

 


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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 07 May 23 12.47pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No. Because no government in the UK would accept such terms and should they first decide to consult the people directly in an advisory referendum it would not therefore be an option.

Who said anything about "advisory referendum'? Would be the same as the one you lost, in or out! IF it was a condition of entry would you vote in or out?

 

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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 07 May 23 3.25pm

Very predictable results considering how the past few years have gone.

If people aren't willing to withhold their vote from a party they're being actively mugged off by through fear of another getting in, they ought realise that it's outlooks like that which bring about such zero accountability governance to begin with.

There is definitely a good argument that how effective a party is locally should be the primary factor, but that makes the assumption that many councils are effective locally rather than are exceptions to the rule when they are. That and people have always used local elections to punish a party in power - and they share an outlook so that's understandable to a point anyway.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 07 May 23 8.15pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Labour look to be cheeky with their claim that they have are onn track for a majority, but they may be right.

It is not a given that the tories can recover, particularly in areas that were not traditionally tory before the Johnson win.

And people vote nationally in a general election, the libdems may lose seats to labour, not the conservatives.

And its been so long with the conservatives, their ministers on Kuessenburg trot out tired old failed policies, police powers and small boats who cares?

They say they will halve inflation, but it going to happen anyway.


 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 09 May 23 5.36pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Labour look to be cheeky with their claim that they have are onn track for a majority, but they may be right.

It is not a given that the tories can recover, particularly in areas that were not traditionally tory before the Johnson win.

And people vote nationally in a general election, the libdems may lose seats to labour, not the conservatives.

And its been so long with the conservatives, their ministers on Kuessenburg trot out tired old failed policies, police powers and small boats who cares?

They say they will halve inflation, but it going to happen anyway.



Thought this an interesting take...

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Wondering if this might be the preferred outcomes for the people pulling Starmers strings? Will give Starmer the excuse of having to acquiesce to the almost invariable Lib-Dem demand for us rejoining the EU, especially if they make a song and dance about it in the run-up to the actual election, especially given the tactical voting opportunities it might throw up (and that would make for some interesting data extrapolation in terms of what seats it might swing).

What I still cannot get out of my head is how people claim that this is Labours most successful electoral showing since 1997. Especially since even with all the hype, Starmer still only got 35% of the vote compared to the 40 that Corbyn pulled in in the 2017 GE.

But not my circus, not my monkeys.

 


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