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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 23 May 23 2.35pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Genuine question.

Seems as though there was a fatal car crash yesterday evening, Police turned up (as they would) and a full scale riot broke out.

I am intrigued as the knee-jerk response (to riot not tragedy) is 'must be a scumbag area' as the riot was apparently 'anti-police' motivated however given the state of policing in the country last few years I wonder if there is more to it?

All speculative from me of course. Still doesn't look too settled however.

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 23 May 23 2.52pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

'must be a scumbag area'

Diplomatically described on BBC as one of the most deprived areas of Cardiff so yes - scumbag area

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent 23 May 23 3.59pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

I expect the two boys that died were little angels and totally innocent of any wrong doing

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 23 May 23 4.50pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

This appears to be a heart-breaking tragedy of two young lives lost in a road traffic accident.

The effect of social media and images seems to have led to outrage that it was as the result of a police chase.

'The BBC has verified CCTV footage appearing to show a police van following two people on an electric bike minutes before a fatal crash'.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 23 May 23 5.14pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

I read that the rioting resulted in millions of pounds-worth of improvements to the area.

 


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View thegreatlardino's Profile thegreatlardino Flag crawley/selsey 23 May 23 5.35pm Send a Private Message to thegreatlardino Add thegreatlardino as a friend

lovely part of cardiff, BBC doing their anti police bit as usual.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 23 May 23 5.47pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

'South Wales police van was pursuing teenagers in Cardiff, force admits', after first denying it.

Force refers itself to police watchdog following deaths of Kyrees Sullivan and Harvey Evans.

 

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View thegreatlardino's Profile thegreatlardino Flag crawley/selsey 23 May 23 5.51pm Send a Private Message to thegreatlardino Add thegreatlardino as a friend

following and pursuing are slighty different, video shows the bike and then a police van going along a residential road, doesnt look like excess speed from either

 


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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 23 May 23 6.52pm

Originally posted by monkey

I expect the two boys that died were little angels and totally innocent of any wrong doing

Well, I mean whatever their merits or misdeeds, they are dead now as result of a foolish moment, so while we should deplore what may well be a totally unwarranted response from the community (I'm sure we'll soon know the details) it's still a very unfortunate way for it all to end.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 23 May 23 7.32pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by footythoughts

Well, I mean whatever their merits or misdeeds, they are dead now as result of a foolish moment, so while we should deplore what may well be a totally unwarranted response from the community (I'm sure we'll soon know the details) it's still a very unfortunate way for it all to end.

There’s a bit of difference between being a little sh!t and deserving to die.

I find it interesting as I had a member of my peer group, age 16, killed by police in a chase on his moped. From what I can see thus far they look to have been followed but whilst a reasonable guess were they unlawfully knocked off their vehicle (killed) as an and possibly the question?

In any circumstance very sad.

 


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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 23 May 23 10.17pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

There’s a bit of difference between being a little sh!t and deserving to die.

I find it interesting as I had a member of my peer group, age 16, killed by police in a chase on his moped. From what I can see thus far they look to have been followed but whilst a reasonable guess were they unlawfully knocked off their vehicle (killed) as an and possibly the question?

In any circumstance very sad.

Yes, exactly. I think people need to separate the two (the event and unruly response), rather than having a default of zero sympathy due to what followed. At the end of the day two kids died.
The footage released certainly appears to have shifted the police response but beyond that who knows. For the sake of the families, community and indeed police hopefully what has happened will be accurately pieced together. That's the only fair course of action when something like this takes place.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 24 May 23 1.32pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Harsh result. But the little darlings were whizzing around the roads, no licence, insurance, protective gear (helmets).
Responsibility probably lies a lot closer to home than the police.

And the rioters torched a disabled woman's car. Utter pondlife.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (24 May 2023 1.34pm)

 


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