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Hrolf The Ganger 25 May 23 10.40am
So, nearly 1.3 million net people arrived here legally last year. That is a city. Since the election is getting closer, both parties are pretending to care about this unsustainable number and yet, the government could cut the numbers when ever they please. The electorate is being taken for fools. Where are all these benefits? Why have successive governments failed to understand the fallout of two world wars, the pill and the need for women to work full time? Why do the left support a policy that makes people poorer by introducing lower wages while their towns are over run by foreigners? Why is our welfare state supporting so many foreign spongers while the mainstream media narrative is all about those hard working migrants? How can we possibly sustain our infrastructure at the required rate, and why would we want to see our countryside disappear just to accommodate foreigners? Who will pay for all this? You know the answer. Such short sighted stupidity for which we are paying a huge price and our children and grand children will be paying the price for a lifetime.
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So, nearly 1.3 million net people arrived here legally last year.

That is a city.

Since the election is getting closer, both parties are pretending to care about this unsustainable number and yet, the government could cut the numbers when ever they please.

The electorate is being taken for fools.

Where are all these benefits?

Why have successive governments failed to understand the fallout of two world wars, the pill and the need for women to work full time?
Why do the left support a policy that makes people poorer by introducing lower wages while their towns are over run by foreigners?
Why is our welfare state supporting so many foreign spongers while the mainstream media narrative is all about those hard working migrants?

How can we possibly sustain our infrastructure at the required rate, and why would we want to see our countryside disappear just to accommodate foreigners?

Who will pay for all this? You know the answer.

Such short sighted stupidity for which we are paying a huge price and our children and grand children will be paying the price for a lifetime.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 25 May 23 10.42am
I thought the net number was 600,000, still a city. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 25 May 23 10.42am

I thought the net number was 600,000, still a city.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 May 23 10.45am
Originally posted by HKOwen I thought the net number was 600,000, still a city. No, that does not include a number of categories.
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Hrolf The Ganger

25 May 23 10.45am

Originally posted by HKOwen

I thought the net number was 600,000, still a city.

No, that does not include a number of categories.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 11.02am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger No, that does not include a number of categories. Wrong. That's those incoming, the immigration figure. What reduces it to 600,000 is those leaving, the emigration figure. The only number missing are those who have entered the UK without paperwork and escaped detection. Refugees and asylum seekers are. I know this because I heard an interview with the ONS just an hour ago and it was explained then. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 11.02am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

No, that does not include a number of categories.

Wrong. That's those incoming, the immigration figure. What reduces it to 600,000 is those leaving, the emigration figure.

The only number missing are those who have entered the UK without paperwork and escaped detection. Refugees and asylum seekers are. I know this because I heard an interview with the ONS just an hour ago and it was explained then.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 May 23 11.11am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Wrong. That's those incoming, the immigration figure. What reduces it to 600,000 is those leaving, the emigration figure. The only number missing are those who have entered the UK without paperwork and escaped detection. Refugees and asylum seekers are. I know this because I heard an interview with the ONS just an hour ago and it was explained then. So you think that the headline figure of 606k is fine then? You are completely out of touch with the British people and with reality. Try living in a town where it no longer feels safe to walk the high street and where most people speak a foreign language. There are now many.
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Hrolf The Ganger

25 May 23 11.11am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Wrong. That's those incoming, the immigration figure. What reduces it to 600,000 is those leaving, the emigration figure.

So you think that the headline figure of 606k is fine then?

You are completely out of touch with the British people and with reality.

Try living in a town where it no longer feels safe to walk the high street and where most people speak a foreign language. There are now many.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 11.13am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger So, nearly 1.3 million net people arrived here legally last year. That is a city. Since the election is getting closer, both parties are pretending to care about this unsustainable number and yet, the government could cut the numbers when ever they please. The electorate is being taken for fools. Where are all these benefits? Why have successive governments failed to understand the fallout of two world wars, the pill and the need for women to work full time? Why do the left support a policy that makes people poorer by introducing lower wages while their towns are over run by foreigners? Why is our welfare state supporting so many foreign spongers while the mainstream media narrative is all about those hard working migrants? How can we possibly sustain our infrastructure at the required rate, and why would we want to see our countryside disappear just to accommodate foreigners? Who will pay for all this? You know the answer. Such short sighted stupidity for which we are paying a huge price and our children and grand children will be paying the price for a lifetime. Unless we allow skilled workers to come here our infrastructure could collapse. The idea that we are "full" has been a mantra of the right throughout my life. It has never been true. Expansion needs careful management but there is a huge amount of space available and resources expand to accommodate need. It's not an insurmountable problem. Perhaps you don't know but apparently there are now more people in favour of increasing legal immigration than against it, with most ambivalent. You are in the minority! The reason this gets attention is political. Many of the swing seats are anti-immigration so there is noise around this issue whenever an election is on the horizon. When it's over, things will just carry on. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 11.13am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So, nearly 1.3 million net people arrived here legally last year.

That is a city.

Since the election is getting closer, both parties are pretending to care about this unsustainable number and yet, the government could cut the numbers when ever they please.

The electorate is being taken for fools.

Where are all these benefits?

How can we possibly sustain our infrastructure at the required rate, and why would we want to see our countryside disappear just to accommodate foreigners?

Who will pay for all this? You know the answer.

Such short sighted stupidity for which we are paying a huge price and our children and grand children will be paying the price for a lifetime.

Unless we allow skilled workers to come here our infrastructure could collapse.

The idea that we are "full" has been a mantra of the right throughout my life. It has never been true. Expansion needs careful management but there is a huge amount of space available and resources expand to accommodate need. It's not an insurmountable problem.

Perhaps you don't know but apparently there are now more people in favour of increasing legal immigration than against it, with most ambivalent. You are in the minority! The reason this gets attention is political. Many of the swing seats are anti-immigration so there is noise around this issue whenever an election is on the horizon. When it's over, things will just carry on.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 11.17am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger So you think that the headline figure of 606k is fine then? You are completely out of touch with the British people and with reality. Try living in a town where it no longer feels safe to walk the high street and where most people speak a foreign language. There are now many. It's you who are out of touch. Most people don't care one way or the other, and it seems more are now in favour of increased immigration to fill vacancies than are against it. I guess you must live somewhere which has been impacted by something and your opinions distorted by it. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 11.17am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So you think that the headline figure of 606k is fine then?

You are completely out of touch with the British people and with reality.

Try living in a town where it no longer feels safe to walk the high street and where most people speak a foreign language. There are now many.

It's you who are out of touch. Most people don't care one way or the other, and it seems more are now in favour of increased immigration to fill vacancies than are against it.

I guess you must live somewhere which has been impacted by something and your opinions distorted by it.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 May 23 11.26am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Unless we allow skilled workers to come here our infrastructure could collapse. The idea that we are "full" has been a mantra of the right throughout my life. It has never been true. Expansion needs careful management but there is a huge amount of space available and resources expand to accommodate need. It's not an insurmountable problem. Perhaps you don't know but apparently there are now more people in favour of increasing legal immigration than against it, with most ambivalent. You are in the minority! The reason this gets attention is political. Many of the swing seats are anti-immigration so there is noise around this issue whenever an election is on the horizon. When it's over, things will just carry on. Yes, and that is because we have become dependent on foreigners to fill jobs. The way to fix that is not to increase immigration, which is what is happening. What is needed is investment in training so that we have a capable, functioning labour force. We also need to encourage women to start having more children again. At the same time, we need to reduce immigration over a period of time to minimize the impact. Right now, we are just setting ourselves up for a complete meltdown of our social structure. It takes foresight and planning, something that modern politicians seem to lack. People like you of course are oblivious to the consequences. You just think everything will be alright no matter what. Well, The Sun will incinerate The Earth in 8 billion years, so why worry about anything?
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Hrolf The Ganger

25 May 23 11.26am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Unless we allow skilled workers to come here our infrastructure could collapse.

The idea that we are "full" has been a mantra of the right throughout my life. It has never been true. Expansion needs careful management but there is a huge amount of space available and resources expand to accommodate need. It's not an insurmountable problem.

Yes, and that is because we have become dependent on foreigners to fill jobs.
The way to fix that is not to increase immigration, which is what is happening.
What is needed is investment in training so that we have a capable, functioning labour force. We also need to encourage women to start having more children again.
At the same time, we need to reduce immigration over a period of time to minimize the impact.

Right now, we are just setting ourselves up for a complete meltdown of our social structure.

It takes foresight and planning, something that modern politicians seem to lack.

People like you of course are oblivious to the consequences. You just think everything will be alright no matter what.

Well, The Sun will incinerate The Earth in 8 billion years, so why worry about anything?

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Stirlingsays 25 May 23 11.26am
This is Wisbech thinking he's the centre again when in reality he's pushing left wing attitudes to immigration that the majority oppose. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

25 May 23 11.26am

This is Wisbech thinking he's the centre again when in reality he's pushing left wing attitudes to immigration that the majority oppose.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 May 23 11.28am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle It's you who are out of touch. Most people don't care one way or the other, and it seems more are now in favour of increased immigration to fill vacancies than are against it. I guess you must live somewhere which has been impacted by something and your opinions distorted by it. Twaddle. I can't be bothered to argue with someone on this subject who is so totally dishonest.
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Hrolf The Ganger

25 May 23 11.28am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's you who are out of touch. Most people don't care one way or the other, and it seems more are now in favour of increased immigration to fill vacancies than are against it.

I guess you must live somewhere which has been impacted by something and your opinions distorted by it.

Twaddle.

I can't be bothered to argue with someone on this subject who is so totally dishonest.

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Stirlingsays 25 May 23 11.29am
Basically in a nutshell.....we're fecked. The left destroyed the country. It's just more managed decline from here. Wish I could say something positive on it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

25 May 23 11.29am

Basically in a nutshell.....we're fecked.

The left destroyed the country.

It's just more managed decline from here.

Wish I could say something positive on it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 25 May 23 11.33am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Basically in a nutshell.....we're fecked. The left destroyed the country. It's just more managed decline from here. Wish I could say something positive on it. I'm just glad I spent most of my life in better times. I just feel sorry for my grandkids. They deserve better.
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Hrolf The Ganger

25 May 23 11.33am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Basically in a nutshell.....we're fecked.

The left destroyed the country.

It's just more managed decline from here.

Wish I could say something positive on it.

I'm just glad I spent most of my life in better times.

I just feel sorry for my grandkids. They deserve better.

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