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  Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 26 May 23 11.04pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Give it time and you'll see it. Without a connection, only those with particular agendas will see things that don't exist.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 May 23 11.16pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
I'm joining the caravan to Cornwall. That fantasy land devoid of reality,....and immigrants. And Cornwall seems to be OK Edited by Forest Hillbilly (26 May 2023 5.27pm) It's you who seems to have the fantasy. The NHS here would cease to function without immigrants in just about every clinical area. The farms depend on immigrant seasonal labour to get many things picked. Fishing boats use immigrants and so do the fish processing factories. We have a large tourist industry here, which whilst functioning all year round is much busier from now to mid-September. Where does the extra labour for that peak come from? Some are students, but not all.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 May 23 11.22pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle In fact, things are changing rapidly locally, especially in Truro where there is a noticeable inflow of Asian and African immigrants since Brexit.
As most work at our local hospital, which is where my wife also works I know from where they are being recruited. There seems to be a trend of people arriving here on a fixed-term contract and then being lured away to one of the big cities by higher wages.
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Sir James Hird  Mount Martha 27 May 23 12.33am |
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OKguysa different slant on migration.
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| dreamwaverider London 27 May 23 3.56am |
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Originally posted by Sir James Hird
OKguysa different slant on migration. Please note, most numbers quoted here are net. Eg after deducting emigration. Even then I would suggest the true incoming numbers are way higher than anything being suggested and have been for decades. One of the worlds biggest issues is too many people. However, most people fall for the fallacy that this country will collapse without more people. Total delusion.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 May 23 9.15am |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
Please note, most numbers quoted here are net. Eg after deducting emigration. Even then I would suggest the true incoming numbers are way higher than anything being suggested and have been for decades. One of the worlds biggest issues is too many people. However, most people fall for the fallacy that this country will collapse without more people. Total delusion. It's not a delusion. It's a fact, although collapse is probably too strong. It would severely impact our ability to maintain our standard of life. This issue has been recognised for at least 50 years. It was being discussed and prepared for in a business I worked in back then. We knew life expectancy was rapidly increasing and whilst the retirement age would have to be postponed somewhat this would never be enough. We faced a future of a long active retirement and a declining birthrate as more women would need to work. Some spoke of a leisure revolution in which automation would replace the tedious jobs, but many jobs cannot be automated. We knew back then that we were going to face a future with a higher number of non-working people, requiring significant healthcare support and a smaller and declining pool of working-age people. All whilst living standards were expected to rise rapidly. Finding more working-age people was, and still is, the only answer. How we handle that socially is another issue.
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The groover  Danbury 27 May 23 9.18am |
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Its a balancing act, need V worker availability. The reason for Brexit was that it was an open door policy with no control at all. A few years ago I had a chat with a traveller in a restaurant, just after he informed me that he was a traveller but that they would not kick off in there as they like the restaurant and don't want to get banned...... Gulp! He told me that they used to do a lot of the crop picking as they travelled around. They all had different farms that they would roll up at when they knew that the crops were due. Then one season none of the farms wanted them. Said they had 'cheaper pickers from the EU'. You reap what you sow as they say. Stopping Student families coming over is a good start. Will also weed out the fake students. I think the next set of figures will see a drop below the curve as this time was an anomaly.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 27 May 23 9.36am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
just look at the photos & video footage of the past, even only a few decades ago. And ask yourself why you talk slowly to the staff at every coffee-shop or newsagent these days.
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Teddy Eagle  27 May 23 10.22am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's not a delusion. It's a fact, although collapse is probably too strong. It would severely impact our ability to maintain our standard of life. This issue has been recognised for at least 50 years. It was being discussed and prepared for in a business I worked in back then. We knew life expectancy was rapidly increasing and whilst the retirement age would have to be postponed somewhat this would never be enough. We faced a future of a long active retirement and a declining birthrate as more women would need to work. Some spoke of a leisure revolution in which automation would replace the tedious jobs, but many jobs cannot be automated. We knew back then that we were going to face a future with a higher number of non-working people, requiring significant healthcare support and a smaller and declining pool of working-age people. All whilst living standards were expected to rise rapidly. Finding more working-age people was, and still is, the only answer. How we handle that socially is another issue. No candidates among the projected 5% unemployed in a couple of years then.
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| Teddy Eagle 27 May 23 10.23am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Without a connection, only those with particular agendas will see things that don't exist. What agenda?
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| georgenorman 27 May 23 11.22am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's you who seems to have the fantasy. The NHS here would cease to function without immigrants in just about every clinical area. The farms depend on immigrant seasonal labour to get many things picked. Fishing boats use immigrants and so do the fish processing factories. We have a large tourist industry here, which whilst functioning all year round is much busier from now to mid-September. Where does the extra labour for that peak come from? Some are students, but not all. You try to paint this picture of a diverse multi-cultural Cornwall, yet the 2021 census shows that 93.6% of the Cornish population are "White (Cornish/English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern Ireland/British)"
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| Sir James Hird Mount Martha 27 May 23 1.10pm |
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OKguysa different slant on migration.
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