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MrRobbo Purley 08 Jun 23 9.08am
Originally posted by cardiff eagle Don’t agree about the personal attributes but the fact he is injury prone, performances are not as good etc are fair in my view. 200k per week is the kind of money a player in peak of his career should get. Zaha hit the peak a few years ago and for me, this would be a waste of money. Also the impact paying that kind of salary has on rest of team- before you know it our wage bill skyrockets for no increased capability. Whilst I don't disagree, its an obscene amount of money. Wilf is our Messi, we cant use that 200k to go and buy another one. I 100% with The Dolphin, If I'd woken up and he'd signed I'd be happy. I'd also have let JT go and gambled with only 3 CB's to save some cash there
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Purley 08 Jun 23 9.08am

Originally posted by cardiff eagle

Don’t agree about the personal attributes but the fact he is injury prone, performances are not as good etc are fair in my view. 200k per week is the kind of money a player in peak of his career should get. Zaha hit the peak a few years ago and for me, this would be a waste of money. Also the impact paying that kind of salary has on rest of team- before you know it our wage bill skyrockets for no increased capability.

Whilst I don't disagree, its an obscene amount of money. Wilf is our Messi, we cant use that 200k to go and buy another one.

I 100% with The Dolphin, If I'd woken up and he'd signed I'd be happy.

I'd also have let JT go and gambled with only 3 CB's to save some cash there

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silvertop Portishead 08 Jun 23 3.02pm
Originally posted by MrRobbo Whilst I don't disagree, its an obscene amount of money. Wilf is our Messi, we cant use that 200k to go and buy another one. I 100% with The Dolphin, If I'd woken up and he'd signed I'd be happy. I'd also have let JT go and gambled with only 3 CB's to save some cash there I wouldn't. We have been in trouble before with injuries and that was with 4 CBs.
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Portishead 08 Jun 23 3.02pm

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Whilst I don't disagree, its an obscene amount of money. Wilf is our Messi, we cant use that 200k to go and buy another one.

I 100% with The Dolphin, If I'd woken up and he'd signed I'd be happy.

I'd also have let JT go and gambled with only 3 CB's to save some cash there

I wouldn't. We have been in trouble before with injuries and that was with 4 CBs.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 08 Jun 23 3.08pm
Originally posted by silvertop I wouldn't. We have been in trouble before with injuries and that was with 4 CBs. O'Brien, Balmer, Richards all or one or two might be able to do the job. In my own opinion, Richards is fine. O'Brien could certainly cover and Balmer could get the odd cup minutes. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 08 Jun 23 3.08pm

Originally posted by silvertop

I wouldn't. We have been in trouble before with injuries and that was with 4 CBs.

O'Brien, Balmer, Richards all or one or two might be able to do the job. In my own opinion, Richards is fine. O'Brien could certainly cover and Balmer could get the odd cup minutes.

Red and Blue Army!

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Putitout Oxford 08 Jun 23 3.20pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC O'Brien, Balmer, Richards all or one or two might be able to do the job. In my own opinion, Richards is fine. O'Brien could certainly cover and Balmer could get the odd cup minutes. O’ Brian, in particular must be close to coming into the frame, two successful loans, and followers in the Championship. Possibly a Championship loan with an instant recall clause might put the polish on him. Outside of that is the preseason and possibly he could stand out and make his case before the new season. Whatever way it goes it must be close to make your mind up time for club and player.
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Oxford 08 Jun 23 3.20pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

O'Brien, Balmer, Richards all or one or two might be able to do the job. In my own opinion, Richards is fine. O'Brien could certainly cover and Balmer could get the odd cup minutes.

O’ Brian, in particular must be close to coming into the frame, two successful loans, and followers in the Championship. Possibly a Championship loan with an instant recall clause might put the polish on him.
Outside of that is the preseason and possibly he could stand out and make his case before the new season. Whatever way it goes it must be close to make your mind up time for club and player.

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pssguy 08 Jun 23 3.32pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin £200k/week is only £40m over 4 years. It will cost more than double that in purchase money and wages to get anyone even close to what he gives us. Will it? Olise cost and salary over the first four years of his time here will be less than £40m, he will give us more than Wilf does and have a massive sell on value. And he doesn't moan as much
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08 Jun 23 3.32pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

£200k/week is only £40m over 4 years.
It will cost more than double that in purchase money and wages to get anyone even close to what he gives us.

Will it? Olise cost and salary over the first four years of his time here will be less than £40m, he will give us more than Wilf does and have a massive sell on value. And he doesn't moan as much

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 08 Jun 23 3.40pm
Originally posted by pssguy Will it? Olise cost and salary over the first four years of his time here will be less than £40m, he will give us more than Wilf does and have a massive sell on value. And he doesn't moan as much Exactly. All this thinking that we can't compete without Zaha needs to stop. We showed quite clearly in the last ten games (most of which Zaha missed) that we can gain points without him. Yes, he can still have moments when he excites the crowd but those moments are becoming rarer. His single goal since the World cup was that virtual tap in in the win over West Ham. Can't recall his other contributions to the goals we scored since the World Cup. There may have been one or possibly two but they don't stand out for me.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 08 Jun 23 3.40pm

Originally posted by pssguy

Will it? Olise cost and salary over the first four years of his time here will be less than £40m, he will give us more than Wilf does and have a massive sell on value. And he doesn't moan as much

Exactly. All this thinking that we can't compete without Zaha needs to stop. We showed quite clearly in the last ten games (most of which Zaha missed) that we can gain points without him. Yes, he can still have moments when he excites the crowd but those moments are becoming rarer. His single goal since the World cup was that virtual tap in in the win over West Ham. Can't recall his other contributions to the goals we scored since the World Cup. There may have been one or possibly two but they don't stand out for me.

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babylonjohn St Leonards-on-Sea 10 Jun 23 1.46am
Originally posted by leejaneagles I agree but then I guess if you grew up from a young age always having the latest sports car, that probably costs more to service than a regular persons car, and going on holiday's first class travel and staying in hotel rooms that are as big as palaces, or your most casual white plain t-shirt costing £10000, then perhaps you wouldn't feel as comfortable with your money. I'm not saying you wouldn't be FYI, nor am I saying Wilf definitely lives that way, but that life is accessible to him and has been since he was young and dumb enough to make immature decisions, so maybe he doesn't have 45m sitting in a secure well invested account. Edited by leejaneagles (07 Jun 2023 4.00pm) I dont think Wilf "always+ had that kind of money. He grew up in the academy remember.
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St Leonards-on-Sea 10 Jun 23 1.46am

Originally posted by leejaneagles

I agree but then I guess if you grew up from a young age always having the latest sports car, that probably costs more to service than a regular persons car, and going on holiday's first class travel and staying in hotel rooms that are as big as palaces, or your most casual white plain t-shirt costing £10000, then perhaps you wouldn't feel as comfortable with your money.

I'm not saying you wouldn't be FYI, nor am I saying Wilf definitely lives that way, but that life is accessible to him and has been since he was young and dumb enough to make immature decisions, so maybe he doesn't have 45m sitting in a secure well invested account.

Edited by leejaneagles (07 Jun 2023 4.00pm)

I dont think Wilf "always+ had that kind of money.
He grew up in the academy remember.

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MrRobbo Purley 10 Jun 23 9.45am
Originally posted by silvertop I wouldn't. We have been in trouble before with injuries and that was with 4 CBs. I'm just not sure that we need a 4th choice CB, that is unlikely to play any minutes on 50k a week. (presuming he re-signs for current wage). Would much rather O'Brien, or Ward step in if needed. We need a bench of relatively cheap youth with potential. Not old, expensive injury prone guys.
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Purley 10 Jun 23 9.45am

Originally posted by silvertop

I wouldn't. We have been in trouble before with injuries and that was with 4 CBs.

I'm just not sure that we need a 4th choice CB, that is unlikely to play any minutes on 50k a week. (presuming he re-signs for current wage).

Would much rather O'Brien, or Ward step in if needed. We need a bench of relatively cheap youth with potential. Not old, expensive injury prone guys.

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silvertop Portishead 10 Jun 23 11.54am
Originally posted by MrRobbo I'm just not sure that we need a 4th choice CB, that is unlikely to play any minutes on 50k a week. (presuming he re-signs for current wage). Would much rather O'Brien, or Ward step in if needed. We need a bench of relatively cheap youth with potential. Not old, expensive injury prone guys. No chance he would get the same wages.
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Portishead 10 Jun 23 11.54am

Originally posted by MrRobbo

I'm just not sure that we need a 4th choice CB, that is unlikely to play any minutes on 50k a week. (presuming he re-signs for current wage).

Would much rather O'Brien, or Ward step in if needed. We need a bench of relatively cheap youth with potential. Not old, expensive injury prone guys.

No chance he would get the same wages.

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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 10 Jun 23 12.15pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin If I had woken up this morning and read that Wilf was staying with us - regardless of the pay deal - I would have been a very happy man. I want him at Palace - he will do way more good than bad both on and off the pitch. £200k/week is only £40m over 4 years. It will cost more than double that in purchase money and wages to get anyone even close to what he gives us. Eze reportedly cost us £18M and Olise £9M. That £27M investment is now worth Circa £80M in potential transfer fees alone….maybe more. This whole idea that it’s too costly to replace Wilf and we should pay him an obscene amount of money in wages is absolutely ludicrous.
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Phil’s Barber

Crowborough 10 Jun 23 12.15pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

If I had woken up this morning and read that Wilf was staying with us - regardless of the pay deal - I would have been a very happy man.
I want him at Palace - he will do way more good than bad both on and off the pitch.
£200k/week is only £40m over 4 years.
It will cost more than double that in purchase money and wages to get anyone even close to what he gives us.

Eze reportedly cost us £18M and Olise £9M. That £27M investment is now worth Circa £80M in potential transfer fees alone….maybe more. This whole idea that it’s too costly to replace Wilf and we should pay him an obscene amount of money in wages is absolutely ludicrous.

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Booted Eagle Bristol 11 Jun 23 2.17pm
It would be madness by the club if they are considering a 4 year contract based on his age. He will steadily lose pace over the seasons and would probably struggle to be in the team in the final seasons. 2 years too long in my opinion. The wages are probably less of an issue in that case. If he or whoever is insistent on a 4 year contract then I think he has played his last game for us. Great player and a Palace legend in my book. COYP !! “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
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Bristol 11 Jun 23 2.17pm

It would be madness by the club if they are considering a 4 year contract based on his age. He will steadily lose pace over the seasons and would probably struggle to be in the team in the final seasons. 2 years too long in my opinion. The wages are probably less of an issue in that case. If he or whoever is insistent on a 4 year contract then I think he has played his last game for us. Great player and a Palace legend in my book. COYP !!

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

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Jacey 11 Jun 23 2.27pm
No shortage of potential interest in Wilf. The list of clubs gets longer and longer. They obviously can spot a bargain. [Link]
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11 Jun 23 2.27pm

No shortage of potential interest in Wilf.
The list of clubs gets longer and longer.
They obviously can spot a bargain.

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