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Eaglehamster Storrington 02 Oct 22 8.55am | |
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Why is there any debate about yesterday's handball incident? Surely the ruling should leave no doubt either way. If a rule is open to interpretation, you will get controversy. I'd have thought the rule book there to provide clear instructions for any given incident. FWIW I'm not an expert on the rules myself
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becky over the moon 02 Oct 22 9.39am | |
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There is no doubt it was a straight red offence - Alan Shearer said so in his first comment on the incident on MOTD last night
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Teddy Eagle 02 Oct 22 9.42am | |
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Originally posted by Eaglehamster
Why is there any debate about yesterday's handball incident? Surely the ruling should leave no doubt either way. If a rule is open to interpretation, you will get controversy. I'd have thought the rule book there to provide clear instructions for any given incident. FWIW I'm not an expert on the rules myself There are a few rules which can be differently interpreted - active/non-active players, interfering with play, non-goalscoring body parts at offsides, obstruction, hand to ball or ball to hand, shirtsleeve handball, what constitutes a clear scoring opportunity, how much extra time should be played, etc.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 02 Oct 22 3.15pm | |
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Every rule seems to become more of a grey area the lower the club's annual income is. It's relatively black and white for the top six, foul against yellow card, foul committed, play on - blatant one look at again, say little. Blatant one against red card, penalty, ban.
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Croydon-Trucker 02 Oct 22 3.57pm | |
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I thought the rule was a deliberate hand ball was a red card no matter where on the pitch it was . Did it change ?
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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 02 Oct 22 5.57pm | |
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rules ARE rules UNLESS you play for Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, Man U or Liverpool!
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Elpis In a pub 02 Oct 22 5.58pm | |
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Its been quite obvious since VAR was brought in that the first thing it does is check the club badge .
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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 02 Oct 22 6.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Elpis
Its been quite obvious since VAR was brought in that the first thing it does is check the club badge . I’m sure we’re all in no doubt, if Wardy or Guehi had done that at the other end, the red card would’ve been out in a flash
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thegreatlardino crawley/selsey 02 Oct 22 6.05pm | |
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to be fair now I have calmed down a bit, its the goal scoring opportunity bit, think a bit further up the pitch it would have been a red, think silva with his experience expected to only get yellow.....
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TheBigToePunt 03 Oct 22 1.17pm | |
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It wasn't a straight red. Whether handball or a foul, the offence must deny a clear goalscoring opportunity for a red to be issued. Ayew and Silva were too far from goal for that to be the case.
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Pierre Purley 03 Oct 22 1.37pm | |
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I would have gone more down the line of the fact that he handled the ball twice. Or that he fouled Ayew and then handled the ball just in case the referee played advantage.
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Wilesy01 Bristol 03 Oct 22 1.48pm | |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
It wasn't a straight red. Whether handball or a foul, the offence must deny a clear goalscoring opportunity for a red to be issued. Ayew and Silva were too far from goal for that to be the case. The problem is you'll see a similar foul given as a red at some point this season. And my bet would be it will be a player for a non 'big six' side. Consistency is what we should all expect but rarely do we see it. For what it's worth can anyone remember the back pass from Craig Dawson to Fabianski last season when we were chasing an equaliser against West Ham and it got waved away? Ward's was a lot less obvious on Saturday yet it was given straight away against us.
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