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Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 02 Oct 22 8.55am Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

Why is there any debate about yesterday's handball incident? Surely the ruling should leave no doubt either way. If a rule is open to interpretation, you will get controversy.

I'd have thought the rule book there to provide clear instructions for any given incident.

FWIW I'm not an expert on the rules myself

 


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becky Flag over the moon 02 Oct 22 9.39am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

There is no doubt it was a straight red offence - Alan Shearer said so in his first comment on the incident on MOTD last night

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 02 Oct 22 9.42am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglehamster

Why is there any debate about yesterday's handball incident? Surely the ruling should leave no doubt either way. If a rule is open to interpretation, you will get controversy.

I'd have thought the rule book there to provide clear instructions for any given incident.

FWIW I'm not an expert on the rules myself

There are a few rules which can be differently interpreted - active/non-active players, interfering with play, non-goalscoring body parts at offsides, obstruction, hand to ball or ball to hand, shirtsleeve handball, what constitutes a clear scoring opportunity, how much extra time should be played, etc.
Trying to avoid paranoia it's notable how some clubs seem to get the benefit of the doubt.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 02 Oct 22 3.15pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Every rule seems to become more of a grey area the lower the club's annual income is. It's relatively black and white for the top six, foul against yellow card, foul committed, play on - blatant one look at again, say little. Blatant one against red card, penalty, ban.
Surely all written in the rules with PGMOL?

 


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Croydon-Trucker Flag 02 Oct 22 3.57pm Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

I thought the rule was a deliberate hand ball was a red card no matter where on the pitch it was . Did it change ?

 

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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 02 Oct 22 5.57pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

rules ARE rules UNLESS you play for Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, Man U or Liverpool!

 

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Elpis Flag In a pub 02 Oct 22 5.58pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Its been quite obvious since VAR was brought in that the first thing it does is check the club badge .

 

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monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 02 Oct 22 6.01pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by Elpis

Its been quite obvious since VAR was brought in that the first thing it does is check the club badge .

I’m sure we’re all in no doubt, if Wardy or Guehi had done that at the other end, the red card would’ve been out in a flash

 

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thegreatlardino Flag crawley/selsey 02 Oct 22 6.05pm Send a Private Message to thegreatlardino Add thegreatlardino as a friend

to be fair now I have calmed down a bit, its the goal scoring opportunity bit, think a bit further up the pitch it would have been a red, think silva with his experience expected to only get yellow.....

 


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TheBigToePunt Flag 03 Oct 22 1.17pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

It wasn't a straight red.

Whether handball or a foul, the offence must deny a clear goalscoring opportunity for a red to be issued. Ayew and Silva were too far from goal for that to be the case.

 

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Pierre Flag Purley 03 Oct 22 1.37pm Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

I would have gone more down the line of the fact that he handled the ball twice. Or that he fouled Ayew and then handled the ball just in case the referee played advantage.
I think it should have been a red card as it was fact-he was the last defender.
You cannot say whether Ayew would have scored or not but he sure deserved the opportunity to do so.
Didn't mean we would have won the game but Chelsea would have worked harder to hang on!
Cheating deserves to be punished!

 

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Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 03 Oct 22 1.48pm Send a Private Message to Wilesy01 Add Wilesy01 as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

It wasn't a straight red.

Whether handball or a foul, the offence must deny a clear goalscoring opportunity for a red to be issued. Ayew and Silva were too far from goal for that to be the case.

The problem is you'll see a similar foul given as a red at some point this season. And my bet would be it will be a player for a non 'big six' side.

Consistency is what we should all expect but rarely do we see it.

For what it's worth can anyone remember the back pass from Craig Dawson to Fabianski last season when we were chasing an equaliser against West Ham and it got waved away? Ward's was a lot less obvious on Saturday yet it was given straight away against us.

 

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