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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 May 24 7.24am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

About time I just hope this isn't clickbait and the politicians mean it.

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I have no problems with using taxpayer money to fund NHS training but I think the public are entitled to get something back.

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 19 May 24 8.02am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

I love the quote that says an NHS dentisat charges £28.50 for a check-up, polish and x-ray. When I had an NHS dentist (pre-Covid), they only did the x-ray & check up bit and then tried to get you to see an 'hygienist' for the scrape & polish at an additional cost of £36. (Private of course, and the hygienist a sub-contractor getting about £15 of that fee).

They always looked quite shocked when I refused to anyone costing £144 per hour - and pointed out that my mechanic at the garage, a far more qualified and skilled person that the hygienist, only charged me £35. per hour.

 


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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 19 May 24 9.24am Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by becky

I love the quote that says an NHS dentisat charges £28.50 for a check-up, polish and x-ray. When I had an NHS dentist (pre-Covid), they only did the x-ray & check up bit and then tried to get you to see an 'hygienist' for the scrape & polish at an additional cost of £36. (Private of course, and the hygienist a sub-contractor getting about £15 of that fee).

They always looked quite shocked when I refused to anyone costing £144 per hour - and pointed out that my mechanic at the garage, a far more qualified and skilled person that the hygienist, only charged me £35. per hour.

...But the mechanic had to look under the bonnet.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 May 24 9.24am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I was forced to go private luckily I have found a great dentist. Still I think it only right that Dentists either work in the NHS or pay for their training.

 


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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 19 May 24 9.27am Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

So am I reading this correctly, a student who has to incur massive debts to train as a dentist will be forced by a government who are a bunch of free marketeers and who believe in small state and have spent years dismantling the NHS will now force people into a restrictive contract to work for less than market rates?

Now I am someone who believes that essential dentistry should be easily accessible and free on the NHS,but I just cannot see a conservative government ever imposing something like this.

Sound like a bit of popularist posturing.

Far better to put the resources into paying dentists enough to make them want to work in the NHS.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 May 24 9.31am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

So am I reading this correctly, a student who has to incur massive debts to train as a dentist will be forced by a government who are a bunch of free marketeers and who believe in small state and have spent years dismantling the NHS will now force people into a restrictive contract to work for less than market rates?

Now I am someone who believes that essential dentistry should be easily accessible and free on the NHS,but I just cannot see a conservative government ever imposing something like this.

Sound like a bit of popularist posturing.

Far better to put the resources into paying dentists enough to make them want to work in the NHS.

You could be right. However why should I pay for a Dentist to train.

This idea should be expanded across the NHS. Each year a person works in the NHS it should reduce their student loans. For most people e.g. Nurses they go into the NHS anyway but if someone wants to work in the private sector that is their choice.

I know loads of people who have earned qualifications for their job which they had to pay or their employer had to pay for.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 19 May 24 10.31am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

just a couple of observations.

a. you are happy to pay for treatment at your local dentist, yet see a line of freeloaders all seemingly getting their teeth done for free.


b. you can always take your chances in Turkey etc....it is a free market after all. And no import tax on returning to the UK with your expensive nice new choppers.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 May 24 12.20pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

I called my dentist on Thursday as I'd chipped a tooth. I was told I'm no longer on the NHS list because I haven't been recently. I look after my teeth.

I phoned around the local dentists and none were taking NHS patients, so now I'm forced to have a private appointment. I had to pay a £40 deposit for the priviledge.

I have never trusted dentists. They are all about money.

The prices for private care are outrageous and dentists manipulate diagnosis and treatment to make more money.

Something needs to be done and now. How can people who aren't well off be expected to regularly visit a dentist or pay private costs?

Scandelous.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 19 May 24 1.41pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by becky

When I had an NHS dentist (pre-Covid), they only did the x-ray & check up bit and then tried to get you to see an 'hygienist' for the scrape & polish at an additional cost of £36. (Private of course,

I visit the hygienist quarterly and my last visit a couple of weeks ago cost me £60

 

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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 19 May 24 1.44pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

So am I reading this correctly, a student who has to incur massive debts to train as a dentist will be forced by a government who are a bunch of free marketeers and who believe in small state and have spent years dismantling the NHS will now force people into a restrictive contract to work for less than market rates?

Now I am someone who believes that essential dentistry should be easily accessible and free on the NHS,but I just cannot see a conservative government ever imposing something like this.

Sound like a bit of popularist posturing.

Far better to put the resources into paying dentists enough to make them want to work in the NHS.

Me neither, but this government bears no relation to a Conservative government…

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 19 May 24 2.07pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

this government bears no relation to a Conservative government…

yup, its toothless

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 19 May 24 6.23pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I visit the hygienist quarterly and my last visit a couple of weeks ago cost me £60

Quite probably - I am talking about 3 years pre-Covid.......and rural South West

 


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