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 SW19 CPFC  Addiscombe West 04 Sep 23 5.07pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
my point being......we either What we cannot do is pick and choose which abuse to allow and which to censor. Try being a gay footballer in Jamaica ? Or an English footballer in Argentina. will whoever shouted some off colour remarks at the match now be crucified ? meanwhile, an article below..... on a whole town that has given up on ever expecting the cops to enforce the Law.... Edited by PalazioVecchio (04 Sep 2023 4.16pm) You do realise that your right to racially abuse others or otherwise is the very definition of total free speech. Rather obviously your right to free speech does not mean you can shout whatever you like with no consequence, however. If you're saying people should be able to behave however they like without consequence, then you're an idiot. And rather obviously, no, not all abuse is equal. Why? Choice vs. Permanence. Abusing someone for wearing a s*** fancy dress outfit is not the same as abusing someone because they are disabled, or disfigured, or have certain features that they were born with. Edited by SW19 CPFC (04 Sep 2023 5.11pm)
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| YT Oxford 04 Sep 23 5.14pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
You do realise that your right to racially abuse others or otherwise is the very definition of total free speech. Rather obviously your right to free speech does not mean you can shout whatever you like with no consequence, however. If you're saying people should be able to behave however they like without consequence, then you're an idiot. And rather obviously, no, not all abuse is equal. Why? Choice vs. Permanence. Abusing someone for wearing a s*** fancy dress outfit is not the same as abusing someone because they are disabled, or disfigured, or have certain features that they were born with. Edited by SW19 CPFC (04 Sep 2023 5.11pm) Thanks. You've saved me from having to post the same response.
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| est1905 04 Sep 23 5.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Some people are so obsessed with virtue signalling before all the facts of a situation are known. Well said. Most on here have this guy hung, drawn and quartered and admit to knowing NONE of the facts.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 04 Sep 23 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by est1905
Well said. Most on here have this guy hung, drawn and quartered and admit to knowing NONE of the facts. 'If' Used in the second post. Perfectly valid to debate providing the proper context is used. It's also not a stretch to consider this likely to be genuine based on more recent incidents, some clearly caught on camera. Calm down.
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| YT Oxford 04 Sep 23 5.46pm |
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Originally posted by est1905
Well said. Most on here have this guy hung, drawn and quartered and admit to knowing NONE of the facts. Don't be so silly. As for the facts; sure the full facts obviously aren't known because there's a police investigation. However two irrefutable facts are that CPFC: 1. is "incredibly disappointed that this incident took place" and 2. has offered its "sincere apologies and support to the Wolves player involved"
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| Eaglecoops CR3 04 Sep 23 5.59pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
'If' Used in the second post. Perfectly valid to debate providing the proper context is used. It's also not a stretch to consider this likely to be genuine based on more recent incidents, some clearly caught on camera. Calm down. What have other instances got to do with this one? “You must be guilty young man, the chap last month was”. Ridiculous
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 04 Sep 23 6.08pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
What have other instances got to do with this one? “You must be guilty young man, the chap last month was”. Ridiculous Er Read it again 'likely' Some of the responses on here appear to come from a position of 'racism doesn't exist anymore' or 'it probably wasn't racist, he's just got carried away' or 'he only made a slitty eye gesture' etc etc. Other recent football specific instances are perfect candidates to demonstrate that racism is alive and well at grounds up and down the country, and sometimes emotion gets the better of people and the mask slips. TBH it doesn't even need to be football related to be relevant. Football fans are a wide spectrum of society and racist incidents happen daily. Besides, I'd be surprised if this was made up – the old boy in question would have grounds for libel and a great legal case. If it is, take them to the cleaners.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 04 Sep 23 6.22pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Er Read it again 'likely' Some of the responses on here appear to come from a position of 'racism doesn't exist anymore' or 'it probably wasn't racist, he's just got carried away' or 'he only made a slitty eye gesture' etc etc. Other recent football specific instances are perfect candidates to demonstrate that racism is alive and well at grounds up and down the country, and sometimes emotion gets the better of people and the mask slips. TBH it doesn't even need to be football related to be relevant. Football fans are a wide spectrum of society and racist incidents happen daily. Besides, I'd be surprised if this was made up – the old boy in question would have grounds for libel and a great legal case. If it is, take them to the cleaners. Jeez, you come up with a hell of a lot from an ‘if’ and a ‘likely’. I’d rather wait see what comes of this. If he did in fact say, ‘benchwarmer’ would you still lock him up?
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Sep 23 6.32pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Jeez, you come up with a hell of a lot from an ‘if’ and a ‘likely’. I’d rather wait see what comes of this. If he did in fact say, ‘benchwarmer’ would you still lock him up? Benchwarmer may have racist connotations.
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| Glazier#1 04 Sep 23 6.44pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Reading your Hol contributions is like searching for the opposite meaning of stoic. A real trooper in the trenches you would have been. What? Lost me there, mate.
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| Midlands Eagle Online 04 Sep 23 6.46pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
it depends on what colour the bench was
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| Stirlingsays 04 Sep 23 8.12pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Like the Chelsea supporter a few months ago? Come on. What horrible thing did he do? Call someone a prawn sandwich.
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