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 Glazier#1  28 Jan 24 6.15pm |
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Originally posted by becky
It's a strange thing.... on the BBC News every time they mention Hamas for the first time, it is always followed by the statement "which has been declared a terrorist organization by the Government" I've always found this rather odd in a 'covering our backsides' sort of way.... Huh. Can't win, can they?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Jan 24 6.18pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
I think it's partly the media but also a more general reaction in many cases to being categorised as uneducated and easily led or of being some variety of -ist. What reaction was Hilary Clinton expecting from her "Basket of deplorables" comment? Presumably millions of people to agree to sort their life out, snap out of it and vote for her. Clinton’s remark might have been unfortunate but it contains a nugget of truth. It is deplorable that so many are now prepared to believe conspiracy theories created by those without any access to the facts. This doesn’t arise from the MSM but from the unregulated alternative media and is an unfortunate by product of the internet.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Jan 24 6.27pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
The BBC neutral? Lol only when it suits them they are neutral. Imagine not calling the Taliban or bin laden terrorists.... Edited by eaglesdare (28 Jan 2024 5.53pm) People like you regard anyone who doesn’t share your twisted logic as biased. The BBC are obligated by their Charter to remain neutral themselves. Whatever anyone else might think, including their employees. They will leave people in little doubt by quoting others but not say it in their own voice.
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| eaglesdare 28 Jan 24 6.49pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
People like you regard anyone who doesn’t share your twisted logic as biased. The BBC are obligated by their Charter to remain neutral themselves. Whatever anyone else might think, including their employees. They will leave people in little doubt by quoting others but not say it in their own voice. We are more alike in that case than you care to admit The BBC is biased and you will think you find far more people share my view on this than they do yours.
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Teddy Eagle  28 Jan 24 9.19pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Clinton’s remark might have been unfortunate but it contains a nugget of truth. It is deplorable that so many are now prepared to believe conspiracy theories created by those without any access to the facts. This doesn’t arise from the MSM but from the unregulated alternative media and is an unfortunate by product of the internet. Her comment was only one small example and I said this attitude is not solely coming from the media. We've seen it often enough on here from those who believe they occupy some higher plane of intelligence and moral superiority. What is dismissed as populism is often a reaction to this presumed superiority and those who deplore the rise of Trump, and of Brexit, could possibly reflect on the part they've played in creating the situation.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Jan 24 10.54pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
We are more alike in that case than you care to admit The BBC is biased and you will think you find far more people share my view on this than they do yours. More people who post here, and in your own bubble, certainly share your view. No argument about that. Out in the real world, where common sense and objectivity are more valued commodities than today's conspiracy theories, not so.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Jan 24 11.07pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Her comment was only one small example and I said this attitude is not solely coming from the media. We've seen it often enough on here from those who believe they occupy some higher plane of intelligence and moral superiority. What is dismissed as populism is often a reaction to this presumed superiority and those who deplore the rise of Trump, and of Brexit, could possibly reflect on the part they've played in creating the situation. That populism is a reaction is true. That politicians need to reflect on that is also true. It's always the case when society recognises inequalities and tries to address them that others will feel their own positions disadvantaged. Some men feel disadvantaged by feminism and fight against it and the men who don't feel disadvantaged. You read the "soy-boy" stupidity in these pages from the wanna-be machomen types who long to put all the progress back in the closet. Generally speaking, time is the healer. What feels odd today won't tomorrow. What upset our parents doesn't upset us and will our children even less. Nevertheless, some of the concerns are valid and need to be listened to and addressed, if only with better explanation and reassurance. It won't satisfy the hardcore, some of whom populate this place, but they will just need to go on complaining whilst the rest of us try to keep on keeping on.
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| Teddy Eagle 28 Jan 24 11.37pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That populism is a reaction is true. That politicians need to reflect on that is also true. It's always the case when society recognises inequalities and tries to address them that others will feel their own positions disadvantaged. Some men feel disadvantaged by feminism and fight against it and the men who don't feel disadvantaged. You read the "soy-boy" stupidity in these pages from the wanna-be machomen types who long to put all the progress back in the closet. Generally speaking, time is the healer. What feels odd today won't tomorrow. What upset our parents doesn't upset us and will our children even less. Nevertheless, some of the concerns are valid and need to be listened to and addressed, if only with better explanation and reassurance. It won't satisfy the hardcore, some of whom populate this place, but they will just need to go on complaining whilst the rest of us try to keep on keeping on. That works both ways though. Young people are far more upset about far more things than previous generations. Probably because in the past most concentrated on more pressing matters like getting enough food and basic essentials. Hopefully in the future there will be less emphasis on the quest for imagined victimhood.
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| eaglesdare 29 Jan 24 12.34am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
More people who post here, and in your own bubble, certainly share your view. No argument about that. Out in the real world, where common sense and objectivity are more valued commodities than today's conspiracy theories, not so. We so called Conspiracy Theorists take no pleasure from being proven right.
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| Stirlingsays 29 Jan 24 2.59am |
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The Democrats will rely upon this kind of thing. Idiocracy. [Tweet Link]
Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jan 2024 3.00am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jan 24 8.13am |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
We so called Conspiracy Theorists take no pleasure from being proven right. You must enjoy a very rewarding life then as you are wrong almost all the time.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jan 24 8.26am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That works both ways though. Young people are far more upset about far more things than previous generations. Probably because in the past most concentrated on more pressing matters like getting enough food and basic essentials. Hopefully in the future there will be less emphasis on the quest for imagined victimhood. Having seen at first hand a society where the daily priority for most people is to find enough food to feed themselves and their family I think we need to be very grateful that our young people now have time to think about other things. Progress brings challenges. What’s better for most can be uncomfortable for some who may indeed imagine themselves to be victims. I think we can be confident their numbers will decline with time and be limited to isolated echo chambers. Perhaps they already have been and we are just in such an echo chamber?
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