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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 04 Dec 15 8.04pm
Quote Stuk at 04 Dec 2015 7.58pm Quote -TUX- at 04 Dec 2015 7.36pm Quote Stuk at 04 Dec 2015 4.03pm Quote -TUX- at 03 Dec 2015 6.38pm Quote The Sash at 03 Dec 2015 2.07pm I have a question.. Back in October David Cameron made a statement that 'Russian bombing in Syria would increase radicalisation and increase terrorism'. Could anyone enlighten me as to what is different with our bombs to the Russian ones that ensures ours dont ? Obviously not (for some reason?) given the responses so far. Oh yeah, and we have Brimstone missiles which are way more accurate/controllable. [Link] We were told that when we invaded Iraq many many moons ago. Same s*, different day. Another generation fooled. We weren't. They're new. We are one of only two countries who have them. What you presumably meant to post was that you believe we've been lied to on both occasions? We were lied to about WMDs in Iraq, I'm not sure that saying we have one of the most accurate missiles is the same thing. We were. A diet of bulls* is bad for you. Stop eating it. Time to move forward together.
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Alphabettispaghetti 04 Dec 15 8.04pm

Quote Stuk at 04 Dec 2015 7.58pm

Quote -TUX- at 04 Dec 2015 7.36pm

Quote Stuk at 04 Dec 2015 4.03pm

Quote -TUX- at 03 Dec 2015 6.38pm

Quote The Sash at 03 Dec 2015 2.07pm

I have a question..

Back in October David Cameron made a statement that 'Russian bombing in Syria would increase radicalisation and increase terrorism'.

Could anyone enlighten me as to what is different with our bombs to the Russian ones that ensures ours dont ?

Obviously not (for some reason?) given the responses so far.

Oh yeah, and we have Brimstone missiles which are way more accurate/controllable.

[Link]

We were told that when we invaded Iraq many many moons ago.
Same s***, different day. Another generation fooled.

We weren't.

They're new. We are one of only two countries who have them.

What you presumably meant to post was that you believe we've been lied to on both occasions? We were lied to about WMDs in Iraq, I'm not sure that saying we have one of the most accurate missiles is the same thing.

We were.
A diet of bulls*** is bad for you. Stop eating it.

Time to move forward together.

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Stuk Top half 04 Dec 15 8.34pm
Quote -TUX- at 04 Dec 2015 8.04pm Quote Stuk at 04 Dec 2015 7.58pm Quote -TUX- at 04 Dec 2015 7.36pm Quote Stuk at 04 Dec 2015 4.03pm Quote -TUX- at 03 Dec 2015 6.38pm Quote The Sash at 03 Dec 2015 2.07pm I have a question.. Back in October David Cameron made a statement that 'Russian bombing in Syria would increase radicalisation and increase terrorism'. Could anyone enlighten me as to what is different with our bombs to the Russian ones that ensures ours dont ? Obviously not (for some reason?) given the responses so far. Oh yeah, and we have Brimstone missiles which are way more accurate/controllable. [Link] We were told that when we invaded Iraq many many moons ago. Same s*, different day. Another generation fooled. We weren't. They're new. We are one of only two countries who have them. What you presumably meant to post was that you believe we've been lied to on both occasions? We were lied to about WMDs in Iraq, I'm not sure that saying we have one of the most accurate missiles is the same thing. We were. A diet of bulls* is bad for you. Stop eating it. We weren't. Iraq 2003 Brimstone missile 2005. Now stop dishing up said bulls***. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 04 Dec 15 8.34pm

Quote -TUX- at 04 Dec 2015 8.04pm

Quote Stuk at 04 Dec 2015 7.58pm

Quote -TUX- at 04 Dec 2015 7.36pm

Quote Stuk at 04 Dec 2015 4.03pm

Quote -TUX- at 03 Dec 2015 6.38pm

Quote The Sash at 03 Dec 2015 2.07pm

I have a question..

Back in October David Cameron made a statement that 'Russian bombing in Syria would increase radicalisation and increase terrorism'.

Could anyone enlighten me as to what is different with our bombs to the Russian ones that ensures ours dont ?

Obviously not (for some reason?) given the responses so far.

Oh yeah, and we have Brimstone missiles which are way more accurate/controllable.

[Link]

We were told that when we invaded Iraq many many moons ago.
Same s***, different day. Another generation fooled.

We weren't.

They're new. We are one of only two countries who have them.

We were.
A diet of bulls*** is bad for you. Stop eating it.

We weren't.

Iraq 2003
Brimstone missile 2005.

Now stop dishing up said bulls***.

Optimistic as ever

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johnfirewall 05 Dec 15 9.24am
The left are wetting themselves again, sending death threats to MPs and quoting Hermann Goering. People that use unverified videos of civilian premises being hit by Russian planes to undermine Cameron seem quite reasonable in comparison.
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johnfirewall

05 Dec 15 9.24am

The left are wetting themselves again, sending death threats to MPs and quoting Hermann Goering. People that use unverified videos of civilian premises being hit by Russian planes to undermine Cameron seem quite reasonable in comparison.

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Hoof Hearted 05 Dec 15 10.39am
Quote johnfirewall at 05 Dec 2015 9.24am The left are wetting themselves again, sending death threats to MPs and quoting Hermann Goering. People that use unverified videos of civilian premises being hit by Russian planes to undermine Cameron seem quite reasonable in comparison. "Momentum"...... it wouldn't surprise me if one or more of our comrades on here wasn't a member.
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Quote johnfirewall at 05 Dec 2015 9.24am

"Momentum"...... it wouldn't surprise me if one or more of our comrades on here wasn't a member.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Dec 15 11.12pm
See the sun has to print a front page apology for printing b/s about Corbyn. [Link]
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Shizzlehurst 21 Dec 15 11.12pm

See the sun has to print a front page apology for printing b/s about Corbyn. [Link]

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Hoof Hearted 22 Dec 15 12.06pm
Quote nickgusset at 21 Dec 2015 11.12pm See the sun has to print a front page apology for printing b/s about Corbyn. [Link] The apology will be forgotten about after Christmas but people's perception of what a muddled fool Corbyn is won't be! If Labour want to be regarded as a credible alternative party to the Tories then having him as leader relying on Diane Abbot to be his spokesperson is not the way to do it.
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Hoof Hearted 22 Dec 15 12.06pm

Quote nickgusset at 21 Dec 2015 11.12pm

See the sun has to print a front page apology for printing b/s about Corbyn. [Link]

The apology will be forgotten about after Christmas but people's perception of what a muddled fool Corbyn is won't be!

If Labour want to be regarded as a credible alternative party to the Tories then having him as leader relying on Diane Abbot to be his spokesperson is not the way to do it.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Dec 15 12.09pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 22 Dec 2015 12.06pm Quote nickgusset at 21 Dec 2015 11.12pm See the sun has to print a front page apology for printing b/s about Corbyn. [Link] The apology will be forgotten about after Christmas but people's perception of what a muddled fool Corbyn is won't be! If Labour want to be regarded as a credible alternative party to the Tories then having him as leader relying on Diane Abbot to be his spokesperson is not the way to do it. I make you wrong there.
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Shizzlehurst 22 Dec 15 12.09pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 22 Dec 2015 12.06pm

Quote nickgusset at 21 Dec 2015 11.12pm

See the sun has to print a front page apology for printing b/s about Corbyn. [Link]

The apology will be forgotten about after Christmas but people's perception of what a muddled fool Corbyn is won't be!

If Labour want to be regarded as a credible alternative party to the Tories then having him as leader relying on Diane Abbot to be his spokesperson is not the way to do it.

I make you wrong there.

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Hoof Hearted 22 Dec 15 12.18pm
Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.09pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 22 Dec 2015 12.06pm Quote nickgusset at 21 Dec 2015 11.12pm See the sun has to print a front page apology for printing b/s about Corbyn. [Link] The apology will be forgotten about after Christmas but people's perception of what a muddled fool Corbyn is won't be! If Labour want to be regarded as a credible alternative party to the Tories then having him as leader relying on Diane Abbot to be his spokesperson is not the way to do it. I make you wrong there. No problem with that..... time will tell which of us called it right.
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Hoof Hearted 22 Dec 15 12.18pm

Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.09pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 22 Dec 2015 12.06pm

Quote nickgusset at 21 Dec 2015 11.12pm

See the sun has to print a front page apology for printing b/s about Corbyn. [Link]

The apology will be forgotten about after Christmas but people's perception of what a muddled fool Corbyn is won't be!

If Labour want to be regarded as a credible alternative party to the Tories then having him as leader relying on Diane Abbot to be his spokesperson is not the way to do it.

I make you wrong there.

No problem with that..... time will tell which of us called it right.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Dec 15 12.23pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 22 Dec 2015 12.18pm Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.09pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 22 Dec 2015 12.06pm Quote nickgusset at 21 Dec 2015 11.12pm See the sun has to print a front page apology for printing b/s about Corbyn. [Link] The apology will be forgotten about after Christmas but people's perception of what a muddled fool Corbyn is won't be! If Labour want to be regarded as a credible alternative party to the Tories then having him as leader relying on Diane Abbot to be his spokesperson is not the way to do it. I make you wrong there. No problem with that..... time will tell which of us called it right. Are you talking about public perception or what the press say? There's a difference. Of course the press are trying to discredit him, the media barons are the ones with most to lose if Corbyn gains even more popularity.
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Shizzlehurst 22 Dec 15 12.23pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 22 Dec 2015 12.18pm

Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.09pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 22 Dec 2015 12.06pm

Quote nickgusset at 21 Dec 2015 11.12pm

See the sun has to print a front page apology for printing b/s about Corbyn. [Link]

The apology will be forgotten about after Christmas but people's perception of what a muddled fool Corbyn is won't be!

If Labour want to be regarded as a credible alternative party to the Tories then having him as leader relying on Diane Abbot to be his spokesperson is not the way to do it.

I make you wrong there.

No problem with that..... time will tell which of us called it right.

Are you talking about public perception or what the press say? There's a difference. Of course the press are trying to discredit him, the media barons are the ones with most to lose if Corbyn gains even more popularity.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 22 Dec 15 2.27pm
Quote Stuk at 04 Dec 2015 4.03pm Quote -TUX- at 03 Dec 2015 6.38pm Quote The Sash at 03 Dec 2015 2.07pm I have a question.. Back in October David Cameron made a statement that 'Russian bombing in Syria would increase radicalisation and increase terrorism'. Could anyone enlighten me as to what is different with our bombs to the Russian ones that ensures ours dont ? Obviously not (for some reason?) given the responses so far. Oh yeah, and we have Brimstone missiles which are way more accurate/controllable. [Link] Problem is we have been down this road before where in we get the story of the hyper accurate missiles now, and then later the fact that they ended up being 10-20% of the munitions used which comes out much later. The issue though isn't so much the accuracy of a bomb, but the blast radius. I have no problem with assassination of know IS fighters and striking targets per se, but when you rely on a high explosive bomb to do so, based on human intelligence, the accuracy of the weapon isn't really a defining factor. The issue also for me, is about the lack of a capacity to back up air support militarily, and that the situation will just be a circle of they 'bomb us' we 'bomb them' and grind down into a situation in which is a stalemate at best. Even backing the more moderate rebels isn't likely to deliver a stable Syria either and the Assad regime is a no-go and sadly the idea of an Kurdish state of Syria will never be accepted. That said the idea of going after oil revenue and infrastructure is a good one, as that remains the only one that can be linked to a long term goal of undermining IS. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 22 Dec 15 2.27pm

Quote Stuk at 04 Dec 2015 4.03pm

Quote -TUX- at 03 Dec 2015 6.38pm

Quote The Sash at 03 Dec 2015 2.07pm

I have a question..

Back in October David Cameron made a statement that 'Russian bombing in Syria would increase radicalisation and increase terrorism'.

Could anyone enlighten me as to what is different with our bombs to the Russian ones that ensures ours dont ?

Obviously not (for some reason?) given the responses so far.

Oh yeah, and we have Brimstone missiles which are way more accurate/controllable.

[Link]

Problem is we have been down this road before where in we get the story of the hyper accurate missiles now, and then later the fact that they ended up being 10-20% of the munitions used which comes out much later.

The issue though isn't so much the accuracy of a bomb, but the blast radius. I have no problem with assassination of know IS fighters and striking targets per se, but when you rely on a high explosive bomb to do so, based on human intelligence, the accuracy of the weapon isn't really a defining factor.

The issue also for me, is about the lack of a capacity to back up air support militarily, and that the situation will just be a circle of they 'bomb us' we 'bomb them' and grind down into a situation in which is a stalemate at best.

Even backing the more moderate rebels isn't likely to deliver a stable Syria either and the Assad regime is a no-go and sadly the idea of an Kurdish state of Syria will never be accepted.

That said the idea of going after oil revenue and infrastructure is a good one, as that remains the only one that can be linked to a long term goal of undermining IS.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 22 Dec 15 4.55pm
Quote nickgusset at 21 Dec 2015 11.12pm See the sun has to print a front page apology for printing b/s about Corbyn. [Link] The original story was about 75% of the front page, a picture with a superimposed jester hat and more inside. The apology was 2 lines bottom left of the front page and more on page 2. Embarrassing for The Sun but most readers will have missed or skipped it. The Ipso are pretty toothless, the apology should have the same prominence as the original lies. It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.
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Holmesdale / Surbiton 22 Dec 15 4.55pm

Quote nickgusset at 21 Dec 2015 11.12pm

See the sun has to print a front page apology for printing b/s about Corbyn. [Link]

The original story was about 75% of the front page, a picture with a superimposed jester hat and more inside. The apology was 2 lines bottom left of the front page and more on page 2.

Embarrassing for The Sun but most readers will have missed or skipped it. The Ipso are pretty toothless, the apology should have the same prominence as the original lies.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 22 Dec 15 5.21pm
I think Corbyn will become more popular, obviously there are those (Sun/Mail readers) that will never change but I genuinely think he will earn a lot of peoples respect. I don't like the bloke but I do like what he has done to politics, however brief it may last. Because when push comes to shove, people won't trust the future of the country in his hands the dignified don't even enter in the game
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Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 22 Dec 15 5.21pm

I think Corbyn will become more popular, obviously there are those (Sun/Mail readers) that will never change but I genuinely think he will earn a lot of peoples respect.

I don't like the bloke but I do like what he has done to politics, however brief it may last.

Because when push comes to shove, people won't trust the future of the country in his hands

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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