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Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 27 Apr 20 2.46pm

Hi all. Those who know me personally from the HOL community will know that I am a qualified Independent Financial Adviser by profession and am regulated by the FCA.

During this pandemic, the world has changed dramatically and understandably there are many who will have new concerns about their financial position. This could be a number of things, such as having insufficient income/lump sum protection to look after loved ones in the event of ill health or death, worries around recent stock market performance, changes to planned retirement dates, a sudden loss of income, or forced into thinking more seriously about your estate planning.

Sadly, we have also seen an in increase in scammers, using coronavirus as an opportunity to con individuals whilst at their most vulnerable. Be wary of these and check the company is regulated by the FCA. It is illegal for a financial product to be promoted via a cold call. If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

I wanted to share some of my knowledge and experience on here and offer some financial guidance, suggestions, and ways to improve your financial behaviour. I will also provide some basic product explanations and benefits, which I hope in turn will provide you with new ideas to improve your financial position and give some peace of mind.

Each week, I will write a short and current, jargon free article and I welcome any suggested topics.

As ever, discussion is encouraged. If you have any questions about your personal finances which you would rather not disclose on an open forum, please feel free to PM me.

Naturally, I would like to keep my anonymity on HOL, but I would be happy to provide personal information via PM.

 

Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 27 Apr 20 2.48pm

Investing during Covid-19

In the industry, we refer to all the media investment hype as ‘noise’. It is easy to get distracted with constant negative headlines and often forget that stock market investing is a long-term roller coaster. It’s important to stick to your long-term plan and block out the short-term fluctuations (the ‘noise’). Buying into a fund or portfolio is not designed to make you instantly rich, but the effects of long-term compounded investment growth will help you considerably.

For those not familiar with the concept of ‘compounding’, its best explained with an example: You invest £1,000 which gets 5% growth per year. After 1 year, the value is £1,050. Year two, you get 5% growth on £1,050 which totals £1,102.50. By the end of year 10, the initial £1,000 would be worth £1,628. This is an increase of 62.8%.

It’s important to note that investment returns are not guaranteed. The above example is not realistic in the sense that there are no investments which offer a guaranteed 5% return, however it is realistic that an average of 5% per year, over a long period, could be achieved by a ‘moderate’ risk investment.

There is no shying away that Covid-19 has hammered the stock markets recently. Between the 21st February and 23rd March, the FTSE 100 dropped an eyewatering 32.5% from 7,403 points to 4,993. However, what mainstream media fails to report, as good news investment stories don’t sell, is that the following month, up until the 23rd of April, it increased by an impressive 14.2% back up to 5,821 points. This pattern is typical of all major global markets recently.

The truth is that no one can predict which way the markets will go next, but a quick look at history will tell you that markets are resilient and tend to bounce back pretty quickly, as they did following the 2008 global financial crisis. This of course cannot be guaranteed.

My message here is not to panic. Ignore the ‘noise’ and stick to your original long-term plan. If you are already invested, the worst thing you can do now is to sell, as all you would be doing is confirming your loss. If you are new to investing, the current climate combined with all-time low interest rates might represent an opportune moment to dip your toe in for the first time.

I’ll finish with a passage from Robert Kiyosaki’s best-selling ‘Rich Dad Poor Dad’:

Overcoming cynicism

‘Whether it’s our own self-doubt or the doubts of other people in our lives, often we allow that doubt to keep us from acting. We play it safe, and let opportunities pass us by.

It often takes great courage to not let rumours and talk of doom and gloom affect your doubts and fears. But a savvy investor knows that the seemingly worst of times is actually the best of times to make money. When everyone else is too afraid to act, they pull the trigger and are rewarded.’

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Apr 20 4.42pm

I was toying with the idea of buying oil company shares but my couple of hundred just won't make me much - particularly with the fees involved. I reckon I could double my money, but don't have much to start with.
If I had a few hundred grand, I can't think of a better current investment.
Disclaimer: Please, no-one take this as advice as I have no idea whatsoever.

 


Red and Blue Army!

Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 27 Apr 20 4.56pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I was toying with the idea of buying oil company shares but my couple of hundred just won't make me much - particularly with the fees involved. I reckon I could double my money, but don't have much to start with.
If I had a few hundred grand, I can't think of a better current investment.
Disclaimer: Please, no-one take this as advice as I have no idea whatsoever.

I appreciate your honesty! So you are aware, Financial Advisers are not regulated to recommend buying/selling direct shares.

Oil stocks nosedived last week making front page news. It goes back to the idea of buying cheap at the seemingly worst of times.

There are several direct to consumer trading platforms out there to facilitate it yourself. To name a few; Hargreaves Lansdown, Charles Stanley, Saxo Markets. A typical trading charge will vary from around £8-£15 per trade.

Providing you have remaining ISA allowance, it would be worth doing via a stocks and shares ISA so that any growth is free of capital gains tax upon sale.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 27 Apr 20 5.21pm

I'm with a company called IWEB.
Charge £5 a trade and very simple to join. Seems very secure with 3 levels of password etc to access your accounts.
Using annual isa allowance up to 20k is allowed. Deals with all stocks including aim markets (penny shares). You can add money at any time and split across different companies, at a fiver a deal.
Ok if you want a talking point about being an investor. Just check it out as it has a simple web site.
Goal machine might know of them and if I've been duped but there are tons out there on line.
Havent drawn out yet so time will tell.

 

Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 27 Apr 20 5.35pm

Originally posted by cryrst

I'm with a company called IWEB.
Charge £5 a trade and very simple to join. Seems very secure with 3 levels of password etc to access your accounts.
Using annual isa allowance up to 20k is allowed. Deals with all stocks including aim markets (penny shares). You can add money at any time and split across different companies, at a fiver a deal.
Ok if you want a talking point about being an investor. Just check it out as it has a simple web site.
Goal machine might know of them and if I've been duped but there are tons out there on line.
Havent drawn out yet so time will tell.

Hi Cryst, I heard of IWEB but never used. It is part of Halifax. Personally I use Hargreaves Lansdown as I like their research tools and they have excellent customer service. However, trading is more expensive starting at £11.95 per trade.

As I'm sure you are aware, buying direct shares is considered high risk as it lacks diversity. For a new investor, buying into a collective fund would be a safer starting point as it can be spread across various sectors, regions and asset classes.

 

Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 27 Apr 20 8.24pm

Always found the stock market a mugs game.

A wise man once told me how to invest money. He told me to ‘buy Litecoin, bud’.

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

cryrst Flag The garden of England 27 Apr 20 10.00pm

Originally posted by Goal Machine

Hi Cryst, I heard of IWEB but never used. It is part of Halifax. Personally I use Hargreaves Lansdown as I like their research tools and they have excellent customer service. However, trading is more expensive starting at £11.95 per trade.

As I'm sure you are aware, buying direct shares is considered high risk as it lacks diversity. For a new investor, buying into a collective fund would be a safer starting point as it can be spread across various sectors, regions and asset classes.

Which I agree would be sensible but I was more considering the fact ascpfc had a couple hundred quid. Getting involved at a level like IWEB might just be a bit of fun at first. All shares can be monitored for him to move into a higher quality market in time. Also I'm aware that by law you cannot give bad advice and this would be bad advice. Sort of like the doctors oath. Had to reword a question to a FA about cashing in an endowment years ago to make it a statement. Then he could proceed. Honourable in reality tbh.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 27 Apr 20 10.01pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Always found the stock market a mugs game.

A wise man once told me how to invest money. He told me to ‘buy Litecoin, bud’.

And now hes drinking bud on his own.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 28 Apr 20 2.08am

financial guidance :

never marry a lunatic just cos she has a nice @rse

never buy a new car

overseas sun property investments are for mugs

Gym membership is daylight robbery

beer with an obscure brand-name is cheaper, and often better, than the p1ss with all the adverts on the telly

never buy anything from anybody who sells door to door

you cannot beat the Casinos (nor the bookies)

a drunken evening out in the West End is probably not worth it.

Scumbags with no class will throw money about like lunatics (reference my first bullet point). Often on posh products of conspicuous consumption. True aristocrats will pick up five-pence from the ground, as they walk past it.

before investing money for gain, you should pay off all your debts.

To purchase anything on the never-never is folly.

On big purchases, Always offer less than the asking price, as a matter of habit. Walk away and let them phone you a week later to accept your offer.

many insist on doing business with a 'professional' but do not underestimate the benefits you can get from an incompetent idiot.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (28 Apr 2020 11.52am)

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

the.universal 28 Apr 20 7.31am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

financial guidance :

never marry a lunatic just cos she has a nice @rse

never buy a new car

overseas sun property investments are for mugs

Gym membership is daylight robbery

beer with an obscure brand-name is cheaper and often better than the p1ss with all the adverts on the telly

never buy anything from anybody who sells door to door

you cannot beat the Casinos

a drunken evening out in the West End is probably not worth it.

Solid advice, agree with all of these

 


Vive le Roy!

Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 28 Apr 20 8.36am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

financial guidance :

never marry a lunatic just cos she has a nice @rse

never buy a new car

overseas sun property investments are for mugs

Gym membership is daylight robbery

beer with an obscure brand-name is cheaper and often better than the p1ss with all the adverts on the telly

never buy anything from anybody who sells door to door

you cannot beat the Casinos

a drunken evening out in the West End is probably not worth it.


This is actually excellent advice

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

JRW2 Flag Dulwich 28 Apr 20 10.04am

Originally posted by Goal Machine

For those not familiar with the concept of ‘compounding’, its best explained with an example: You invest £1,000 which gets 5% growth per year. After 1 year, the value is £1,050. Year two, you get 5% growth on £1,050 which totals £1,102.50. By the end of year 10, the initial £1,000 would be worth £1,628. This is an increase of 62.8%.


I don't know whether your 5% refers just to capital growth, but one shouldn't forget that shares in the FTSE 100 Index are currently on average giving a dividend yield of 4.75%, so that at the end of year 1 the total return is 9.75%. Of course, in practice most people cash their dividend cheque and spend the money. But if the dividend is reinvested every year, then the return over 10 years will be far, far greater (I can't do the maths) than 62.8%. Many companies offer shareholders a scheme for reinvesting dividends, known as a DRIP (Dividend Reinvestment Plan), whereby the dividend is used to acquire more shares for the shareholder. This is great for younger people.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Apr 20 10.10am

Sell all your shares within 10 years, no matter how you feel about it. Buy shares after the inevitable crash in the economic life cycle.

 


COYP

mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 28 Apr 20 10.13am

Originally posted by JRW2


I don't know whether your 5% refers just to capital growth, but one shouldn't forget that shares in the FTSE 100 Index are currently on average giving a dividend yield of 4.75%, so that at the end of year 1 the total return is 9.75%. Of course, in practice most people cash their dividend cheque and spend the money. But if the dividend is reinvested every year, then the return over 10 years will be far, far greater (I can't do the maths) than 62.8%. Many companies offer shareholders a scheme for reinvesting dividends, known as a DRIP (Dividend Reinvestment Plan), whereby the dividend is used to acquire more shares for the shareholder. This is great for younger people.

Dividends are becoming rarer than a Benteke hat trick after this latest crash. They're one of the first things to be cut when there's a crisis.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 28 Apr 20 10.59am

a robber can steal more money with a suit & briefcase than he could with a balaclava & shotgun.

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 28 Apr 20 11.05am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

financial guidance :

never marry a lunatic just cos she has a nice @rse

never buy a new car

overseas sun property investments are for mugs

Gym membership is daylight robbery

beer with an obscure brand-name is cheaper and often better than the p1ss with all the adverts on the telly

never buy anything from anybody who sells door to door

you cannot beat the Casinos

a drunken evening out in the West End is probably not worth it.

Wise words indeed.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Apr 20 11.17am

Gym membership depends on how much and what you use there. For a lot of people it probably is a waste of money, especially years ago when people joined in January, didn’t go beyond February and were locked in for a full year.

You could of course buy all the equipment but decent stuff isn’t cheap and you need the room. There are gyms that are very sociable places so an added value and motivation.

 


COYP

Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 28 Apr 20 11.53am

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Always found the stock market a mugs game.

A wise man once told me how to invest money. He told me to ‘buy Litecoin, bud’.

I would agree that unless you know how to read company balance sheets and accounts and understand the mechanisms behind how the company operates, buying individual company stocks could be perceived as a mugs game. If you don't know what you're investing in, it is a gamble.

My view on litecoin, or any cryptocurrency, is that it is unregulated and extremely volatile. It is common financial behaviour to have herd mentality and simply buy an investment because everyone else is. The reality is that the horse has already bolted and 99% of investors have no idea what they're actually investing in. For those who spotted it early, knew what they were doing and sold at the right would have done very well.

To challenge your perception on stock market investing, I would encourage you to look at a very basic, low cost passive fund. Try the Vanguard LifeStrategy 100% equity fund. This is a no frills tracker fund which simply mirrors the global stock markets and has 100% equity content (no bonds, cash or property).

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Prior to the recent crash, this had grown 60% in less than 5 years. Since this launched around 10 years ago, the total growth has been around 160%. Short term, this would be very volatile and most likely unsuitable, but long term the growth is likely to be enormous.

The 'mugs' (to use your term) are those who keep their long term savings in cash. Most people are not aware that the rate of inflation (approx 2.5% per year) exceeds the low interest rates (currently 0.1%), so the spending power of cash is gradually decreasing (by around 2.4% per year).

Cash is ideal for short term saving/rainy day fund, but it is guaranteed to lose you money long term.

Edited by Goal Machine (28 Apr 2020 11.59am)

 

JRW2 Flag Dulwich 28 Apr 20 11.56am

Originally posted by mezzer

Dividends are becoming rarer than a Benteke hat trick after this latest crash. They're one of the first things to be cut when there's a crisis.

Good point, but slghtly overstated I think (though your comparison made me smile). BP this morning announced that it was maintaining its dividend, which I gather wasn't universally expected, and which has led to a 1.4% rise in the share price.

And I see that a firm of stockbrokers has suggested that on the basis of what it regards as realistic assumptions the FTSE 100 Index will yield 2.7% in 2020. And there must be at least a chance that dividends will be restored/increased in 2021. So potential total returns still in my opinion look attractive.

 

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