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elgrande bedford 24 Dec 15 12.12pm
Quote nickgusset at 23 Dec 2015 11.39pm Quote the.universal at 23 Dec 2015 11.15pm Potentially somewhat off topic but I'm going for it anyway. Nick, I respect your knowledge of politics, what are your views on Diane Abbott? Not without some good ideas, puts her foot in her mouth a lot, criticism sometimes deserved, but alas disproportionate as she is a panto villain politician. Supposed to be a very good constituency M.P. She must be doing something right to get re elected. Although time and time again proved to be a hypocrite....and the lefts favorite term(when used against the right) Racist. And she is a pantomine politician as you described her,because thta just what she is,Pathetic woman whos quest for power knows no limits....or morals. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 24 Dec 15 12.12pm

Quote nickgusset at 23 Dec 2015 11.39pm

Quote the.universal at 23 Dec 2015 11.15pm

Potentially somewhat off topic but I'm going for it anyway. Nick, I respect your knowledge of politics, what are your views on Diane Abbott?

Not without some good ideas, puts her foot in her mouth a lot, criticism sometimes deserved, but alas disproportionate as she is a panto villain politician.
Supposed to be a very good constituency M.P. She must be doing something right to get re elected.

Although time and time again proved to be a hypocrite....and the lefts favorite term(when used against the right) Racist.
And she is a pantomine politician as you described her,because thta just what she is,Pathetic woman whos quest for power knows no limits....or morals.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 04 Jan 16 4.02pm
The PA misrepresenting Corbyn ('tis a sad day when I find myself defending him) [Tweet Link] the dignified don't even enter in the game
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In The Crowd 04 Jan 16 4.02pm

The PA misrepresenting Corbyn ('tis a sad day when I find myself defending him)

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the dignified don't even enter in the game

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jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Jan 16 5.13pm
Also hasn't had his genitals in a pigs mouth, literally speaking, although having apparently done the nasty with Abbott presumably is guilty of such acts figuratively. Which is probably worse. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 04 Jan 16 5.13pm

Also hasn't had his genitals in a pigs mouth, literally speaking, although having apparently done the nasty with Abbott presumably is guilty of such acts figuratively.

Which is probably worse.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 05 Jan 16 1.59pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Jan 2016 5.13pm Also hasn't had his genitals in a pigs mouth, literally speaking, although having apparently done the nasty with Abbott presumably is guilty of such acts figuratively. Which is probably worse. Perhaps not but only becuase he is too busy trying to remove his foot from his own mouth (and his cock from abbotts hoop) Blokes a fool, and will be deposed by Hilary Benn, then and only then will labour stand a chance of winning. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 05 Jan 16 1.59pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Jan 2016 5.13pm

Also hasn't had his genitals in a pigs mouth, literally speaking, although having apparently done the nasty with Abbott presumably is guilty of such acts figuratively.

Which is probably worse.

Perhaps not but only becuase he is too busy trying to remove his foot from his own mouth (and his cock from abbotts hoop)

Blokes a fool, and will be deposed by Hilary Benn, then and only then will labour stand a chance of winning.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jan 16 10.23pm
Quote fed up eagle at 27 Jul 2015 6.14pm Corbyn wants to nationalise the banks, the railways and we all know that that would be a disater. Just seen on a bbc4 documentary that before privatisation, BR was the 2nd cheapest and most efficient railway in Europe. Now it's among the most expensive!
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Shizzlehurst 07 Jan 16 10.23pm

Quote fed up eagle at 27 Jul 2015 6.14pm

Corbyn wants to nationalise the banks, the railways and we all know that that would be a disater.

Just seen on a bbc4 documentary that before privatisation, BR was the 2nd cheapest and most efficient railway in Europe.
Now it's among the most expensive!

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johnfirewall 07 Jan 16 10.39pm
The railways are a disgrace but if they're now at capacity and all the lines need updating and Labour don't want High Speed then it doesn't matter who owns them. Even the government (as it does in the form of TfL) needs to turn a profit to reinvest.
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07 Jan 16 10.39pm

The railways are a disgrace but if they're now at capacity and all the lines need updating and Labour don't want High Speed then it doesn't matter who owns them. Even the government (as it does in the form of TfL) needs to turn a profit to reinvest.

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The White Horse 08 Jan 16 2.29am
Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.23pm Are you talking about public perception or what the press say? There's a difference. Of course the press are trying to discredit him, the media barons are the ones with most to lose if Corbyn gains even more popularity. The press aren't just trying to discredit Corbyn, they're succeeding. As a Labour party supporter, I'd suggest there are two options available: 1) Eliminate right-wing bias in the media. 2) Get a leader who is less of a liability. I'd struggle to do the first option effectively. I think I could find at least 200 MPs who open up options on the second. "The fox has his den. The bee has his hive. The stoat, has, uh... his stoat-hole... but only man chooses to make his nest in an investment opportunity.” Stewart Lee
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Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.23pm

Are you talking about public perception or what the press say? There's a difference. Of course the press are trying to discredit him, the media barons are the ones with most to lose if Corbyn gains even more popularity.

The press aren't just trying to discredit Corbyn, they're succeeding. As a Labour party supporter, I'd suggest there are two options available:

1) Eliminate right-wing bias in the media.
2) Get a leader who is less of a liability.

I'd struggle to do the first option effectively. I think I could find at least 200 MPs who open up options on the second.

"The fox has his den. The bee has his hive. The stoat, has, uh... his stoat-hole... but only man chooses to make his nest in an investment opportunity.” Stewart Lee

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 Jan 16 9.30am
Quote The White Horse at 08 Jan 2016 2.29am Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.23pm Are you talking about public perception or what the press say? There's a difference. Of course the press are trying to discredit him, the media barons are the ones with most to lose if Corbyn gains even more popularity. The press aren't just trying to discredit Corbyn, they're succeeding. As a Labour party supporter, I'd suggest there are two options available: 1) Eliminate right-wing bias in the media. 2) Get a leader who is less of a liability. I'd struggle to do the first option effectively. I think I could find at least 200 MPs who open up options on the second. Get rid of a leader who has seen membership of the labour party bigger than it's been for a long long time? A mistake I feel. These people don't want a 'Tory lite' labour leader.
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Shizzlehurst 08 Jan 16 9.30am

Quote The White Horse at 08 Jan 2016 2.29am

Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.23pm

The press aren't just trying to discredit Corbyn, they're succeeding. As a Labour party supporter, I'd suggest there are two options available:

1) Eliminate right-wing bias in the media.
2) Get a leader who is less of a liability.

I'd struggle to do the first option effectively. I think I could find at least 200 MPs who open up options on the second.

Get rid of a leader who has seen membership of the labour party bigger than it's been for a long long time? A mistake I feel.
These people don't want a 'Tory lite' labour leader.

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npn Crowborough 08 Jan 16 9.42am
Quote nickgusset at 08 Jan 2016 9.30am Quote The White Horse at 08 Jan 2016 2.29am Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.23pm Are you talking about public perception or what the press say? There's a difference. Of course the press are trying to discredit him, the media barons are the ones with most to lose if Corbyn gains even more popularity. The press aren't just trying to discredit Corbyn, they're succeeding. As a Labour party supporter, I'd suggest there are two options available: 1) Eliminate right-wing bias in the media. 2) Get a leader who is less of a liability. I'd struggle to do the first option effectively. I think I could find at least 200 MPs who open up options on the second. Get rid of a leader who has seen membership of the labour party bigger than it's been for a long long time? A mistake I feel. These people don't want a 'Tory lite' labour leader. The problem for Labour is that members doesn't equal votes. People prone to membership of the party are likely to vote for a jellyfish if it's wearing a red rosette, what they need to do to win an election is grab significant numbers from "non-political" people. I really don't think Corbyn's the man to do that for them. As for the membership vote, I think it may be a case of "be careful what you wish for", but time will telll, and I don't know diddly (except I wouldn't personally trust him to run a bath, let alone a country).
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Crowborough 08 Jan 16 9.42am

Quote nickgusset at 08 Jan 2016 9.30am

Quote The White Horse at 08 Jan 2016 2.29am

Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.23pm

The press aren't just trying to discredit Corbyn, they're succeeding. As a Labour party supporter, I'd suggest there are two options available:

1) Eliminate right-wing bias in the media.
2) Get a leader who is less of a liability.

I'd struggle to do the first option effectively. I think I could find at least 200 MPs who open up options on the second.

Get rid of a leader who has seen membership of the labour party bigger than it's been for a long long time? A mistake I feel.
These people don't want a 'Tory lite' labour leader.

The problem for Labour is that members doesn't equal votes. People prone to membership of the party are likely to vote for a jellyfish if it's wearing a red rosette, what they need to do to win an election is grab significant numbers from "non-political" people. I really don't think Corbyn's the man to do that for them. As for the membership vote, I think it may be a case of "be careful what you wish for", but time will telll, and I don't know diddly (except I wouldn't personally trust him to run a bath, let alone a country).

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 Jan 16 10.06am
Quote npn at 08 Jan 2016 9.42am Quote nickgusset at 08 Jan 2016 9.30am Quote The White Horse at 08 Jan 2016 2.29am Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.23pm Are you talking about public perception or what the press say? There's a difference. Of course the press are trying to discredit him, the media barons are the ones with most to lose if Corbyn gains even more popularity. The press aren't just trying to discredit Corbyn, they're succeeding. As a Labour party supporter, I'd suggest there are two options available: 1) Eliminate right-wing bias in the media. 2) Get a leader who is less of a liability. I'd struggle to do the first option effectively. I think I could find at least 200 MPs who open up options on the second. Get rid of a leader who has seen membership of the labour party bigger than it's been for a long long time? A mistake I feel. These people don't want a 'Tory lite' labour leader. The problem for Labour is that members doesn't equal votes. People prone to membership of the party are likely to vote for a jellyfish if it's wearing a red rosette, what they need to do to win an election is grab significant numbers from "non-political" people. I really don't think Corbyn's the man to do that for them. As for the membership vote, I think it may be a case of "be careful what you wish for", but time will telll, and I don't know diddly (except I wouldn't personally trust him to run a bath, let alone a country). More members = more people canvassing and arguing the toss on the doorsteps of the nation. Must have some impact?
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 08 Jan 16 10.06am

Quote npn at 08 Jan 2016 9.42am

Quote nickgusset at 08 Jan 2016 9.30am

Quote The White Horse at 08 Jan 2016 2.29am

Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.23pm

The press aren't just trying to discredit Corbyn, they're succeeding. As a Labour party supporter, I'd suggest there are two options available:

1) Eliminate right-wing bias in the media.
2) Get a leader who is less of a liability.

I'd struggle to do the first option effectively. I think I could find at least 200 MPs who open up options on the second.

Get rid of a leader who has seen membership of the labour party bigger than it's been for a long long time? A mistake I feel.
These people don't want a 'Tory lite' labour leader.

More members = more people canvassing and arguing the toss on the doorsteps of the nation. Must have some impact?

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 Jan 16 10.11am
Quote The White Horse at 08 Jan 2016 2.29am Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.23pm Are you talking about public perception or what the press say? There's a difference. Of course the press are trying to discredit him, the media barons are the ones with most to lose if Corbyn gains even more popularity. The press aren't just trying to discredit Corbyn, they're succeeding. As a Labour party supporter, I'd suggest there are two options available: 1) Eliminate right-wing bias in the media. 2) Get a leader who is less of a liability. I'd struggle to do the first option effectively. I think I could find at least 200 MPs who open up options on the second. I read this morning that over 85% of labour mp's want to go with an anti austerity agenda. Who in the leadership contest, other than Corbyn, campaigned on this agenda?
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 08 Jan 16 10.11am

Quote The White Horse at 08 Jan 2016 2.29am

Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.23pm

The press aren't just trying to discredit Corbyn, they're succeeding. As a Labour party supporter, I'd suggest there are two options available:

1) Eliminate right-wing bias in the media.
2) Get a leader who is less of a liability.

I'd struggle to do the first option effectively. I think I could find at least 200 MPs who open up options on the second.

I read this morning that over 85% of labour mp's want to go with an anti austerity agenda. Who in the leadership contest, other than Corbyn, campaigned on this agenda?

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The White Horse 08 Jan 16 2.56pm
Quote nickgusset at 08 Jan 2016 10.06am Quote npn at 08 Jan 2016 9.42am Quote nickgusset at 08 Jan 2016 9.30am Quote The White Horse at 08 Jan 2016 2.29am Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.23pm Are you talking about public perception or what the press say? There's a difference. Of course the press are trying to discredit him, the media barons are the ones with most to lose if Corbyn gains even more popularity. The press aren't just trying to discredit Corbyn, they're succeeding. As a Labour party supporter, I'd suggest there are two options available: 1) Eliminate right-wing bias in the media. 2) Get a leader who is less of a liability. I'd struggle to do the first option effectively. I think I could find at least 200 MPs who open up options on the second. Get rid of a leader who has seen membership of the labour party bigger than it's been for a long long time? A mistake I feel. These people don't want a 'Tory lite' labour leader. The problem for Labour is that members doesn't equal votes. People prone to membership of the party are likely to vote for a jellyfish if it's wearing a red rosette, what they need to do to win an election is grab significant numbers from "non-political" people. I really don't think Corbyn's the man to do that for them. As for the membership vote, I think it may be a case of "be careful what you wish for", but time will telll, and I don't know diddly (except I wouldn't personally trust him to run a bath, let alone a country). More members = more people canvassing and arguing the toss on the doorsteps of the nation. Must have some impact? My "mate Dave" works for the Labour Party and nationally and locally the number of people canvassing for the party has absolutely plummeted since the last election despite the membership doubling. "The fox has his den. The bee has his hive. The stoat, has, uh... his stoat-hole... but only man chooses to make his nest in an investment opportunity.” Stewart Lee
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The White Horse

08 Jan 16 2.56pm

Quote nickgusset at 08 Jan 2016 10.06am

Quote npn at 08 Jan 2016 9.42am

Quote nickgusset at 08 Jan 2016 9.30am

Quote The White Horse at 08 Jan 2016 2.29am

Quote nickgusset at 22 Dec 2015 12.23pm

The press aren't just trying to discredit Corbyn, they're succeeding. As a Labour party supporter, I'd suggest there are two options available:

1) Eliminate right-wing bias in the media.
2) Get a leader who is less of a liability.

I'd struggle to do the first option effectively. I think I could find at least 200 MPs who open up options on the second.

Get rid of a leader who has seen membership of the labour party bigger than it's been for a long long time? A mistake I feel.
These people don't want a 'Tory lite' labour leader.

More members = more people canvassing and arguing the toss on the doorsteps of the nation. Must have some impact?

My "mate Dave" works for the Labour Party and nationally and locally the number of people canvassing for the party has absolutely plummeted since the last election despite the membership doubling.

"The fox has his den. The bee has his hive. The stoat, has, uh... his stoat-hole... but only man chooses to make his nest in an investment opportunity.” Stewart Lee

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