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Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 21 Mar 23 11.32am Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

Originally posted by HeathMan

A comfort to know that Roy has managed other clubs - and the England Team. Have to hope that he is in international mode, with a wish to see what every player can do. Please can he get all players to go all out on 1st April. Please could we have an Academy Striker on display from the start?

Be a first for Roy. Who, I think, has never heard of the Academy.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Mar 23 11.35am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

For the money!! He is 75 and a multi millionaire. I’m not 75 yet but I’d imagine it must be a nice feeling to be 75 and a club in the best league in the world still wants your services. Fair play to him for taking it on.

People with money tend to want more. He's not doing it as a favour. I'd frankly say the job is a bit of a pain in the arse.

Where is there any evidence that this will work?

In my opinion, and I'm pretty sure in the majority of opinions, we needed a motivator. Is Roy a motivator - he doesn't seem it. I don't see how this is anything other than a step backwards. We're almost at the stage where we'd be better off in the Championship.

Fingers crossed, stay up, then buy what ten decent players in the summer. Yeah right, get real. It isn't a strategy, it's not even a tactic. It's not even ok for now.

 


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PJEagle Flag London 21 Mar 23 11.38am Send a Private Message to PJEagle Add PJEagle as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Why do you think he took it on? Unfinished business? Or because he's an honourable man an he feels it's his duty? Or maybe because he can't stay away and the lure of the easy £££ is just too much to resist?
I wonder if PV had a hint of communications between the club and Roy going on behind his back, all the while with the club, albeit not playing well and with a tough set of fixtures, in 12th and 6 points clear of the drop zone?
There's something not right about all this, and it is said the fish rots from the head down.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (21 Mar 2023 10.49am)

This is sky sports video analysis of what Roy has to address. Most worrying is yards run per game, in which we are bottom. The fitness training under Vieira doesn't look like it was good enough.

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becky Flag over the moon 21 Mar 23 11.40am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by NE14T

Nead

There were a host of other managerial options out there. To suggest otherwise is just twaddle.

Were there? Really? There may be a whole raft of unemployed Managers out there, but were they willing to come to us? Why even would they, until we know whether we are staying up or going down. Why take on this sh*t show, when they can wait til the end of the season and make a considered decision.


Unless you actually saw the queue in Sainsbury's car park over the weekend...

 


A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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auk Flag 21 Mar 23 11.41am Send a Private Message to auk Add auk as a friend

Roy to the rescue! I think it's a sound appointment.

 

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taylors lovechild Flag 21 Mar 23 11.45am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by PJEagle

This is sky sports video analysis of what Roy has to address. Most worrying is yards run per game, in which we are bottom. The fitness training under Vieira doesn't look like it was good enough.

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Wasn't the lack of running and fitness also a criticism of Palace under Roy? I seem to remember it was. Anyway, let's not get too carried away about the distance covered thing as Man City, Arsenal, United and Brighton are all in the bottom seven teams for distance covered. It's what you do with the running, not how much you run.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Mar 23 11.50am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I really don't think Roy will perform miracles or do anything much really but I have to say I will be ecstatic if we stay up. I won't even care about how worrying next season is, for a while at least.

 


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southnorwoodhill Flag 21 Mar 23 11.51am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Roy's first game is April 1st. How very appropriate. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. But who's the fool?

Edited by southnorwoodhill (21 Mar 2023 11.55am)

 

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EddieMac Flag 21 Mar 23 11.54am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

A 65% win rate against the teams below us would say otherwise, as would draws against Liverpool, Newcastle, and Man Utd. What we have been since Christmas is hard to break down with very little threat up top. Sound familiar? Welcome Mr Hodgson.

Ambrose pointed out a worrying stat that in the run in in Hodgson's final three seasons we played a combined 24 games, won 2, drew 2, lost 20. Either that means he doesn't have the energy for a full season, or his tactics aren't suited to when the stakes rise. I really hope it's the former, but I worry it's the latter. The one bright spot for me is that Paddy is assistant, not Lewington, and he seems to want a bit more blood & guts. Maybe he'll add some freshness to the R&R sandwich.

Edited by taylors lovechild (21 Mar 2023 11.05am)

But the flip side of that argument is that all the bottom teams bar Everton have signed players since we played them and are on better form plus the fact that just before and since the world cup we have already lost to Forest, Southampton (FA Cup).

 

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sydtheeagle Flag England 21 Mar 23 11.54am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Vieira wasn’t working, he had more money spent on his squad than any previous manager and was being tactically outthought by other managers after season one and seem lost as what to do.

While I would agree to some extent this is true, what do you expect from a first-time PL manager who at least to some extent is learning on the job? What I'm saying is either don't hire managers who are unqualified in the first place or if you do hire them for whatever reason then expect to go through some rough periods in which you have to stand by them while they learn. Hiring an inexperienced manager and then failing to back him to gain the required experience merely adds insult to injury.

I think Vieira got the job (after others had rejected it) because he was essentially the only candidate interviewed who wanted it, and pre-season was fast approaching at the time. Parish was getting desperate, and Vieira - a big name - gave him a solution.

This speaks to a greater problem; that Parish now has a reputation in the game as someone you don't want to work for. That hurts Palace. Whatever you think of Allardyce and Pulis, they were credible managers who have influence and networks in the small community of football. The fact that they couldn't work for Parish is bound to have been noticed by others. The treatment of Vieira last week, whether right or wrong, will also have resonated in the football world. He's a beloved and respected person and whether we were right to break ties with him or not, it won't go down well (it already hasn't) in the wider football world. Roy has got the job now as much, I suspect, because he's one of the very few who's prepared to work with Parish as anything else.

Our real problem may come in the summer, no matter which division we're in. I suspect very few credible managers are going to want the Palace job as long as Parish is there. Why would you want to work for a boss who the best of your peers have no respect for?

 


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PatrickA Flag London 21 Mar 23 11.55am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I don't disagree with the short term appointment, but hope Roy approaches the role with an open mind re the players.
It would be easy for Roy to revert to what he knows and fill the team with players he knows from last time around and who are familiar with his methods.
This would mean largely ignoring the younger players who have joined since he left which would surely be a mistake.
Some of the older members of the squad were struggling when he left and there has been a further deterioration since that time.
If he's the good coach he's reputed to be let's see if he can get a tune out of Edouard, Olise, Eze, Doucoure, Lokonga and Ahamada.

 

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beak Flag croydon 21 Mar 23 12.00pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by mezzer

I've heard we're trying to get Sir Bobby Charlton in on a free to bolster our midfield. He's without a club at the moment.

Isn't it wonderful that "fans" now seek to deride an icon of Bobby Charlton's stature.

 

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