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Part Time James Flag 02 Jun 16 9.33am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Highest average gate ever 29,900 season 69/70. Unsold tickets last season around 25,000. We don't need 40,000 seats. The stadium would never sell out.

Yeah but that's because, prior to the building of the Holmesdale stand, you can't tell Selhurst is there from afar. If it was a tier higher then people might go "oo, there's a stadium over there, I shall investigate this".

 




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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 02 Jun 16 9.36am

It would if we progressed on the pitch, maybe win a cup, qualify for europe, build slowly but surely, and can always give local schools free tickets to fill any unsold seats and grow the next generation of season ticket holders!

 

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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 02 Jun 16 9.37am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Highest average gate ever 29,900 season 69/70. Unsold tickets last season around 25,000. We don't need 40,000 seats. The stadium would never sell out.

I'd agree with you on the stats however its a chicken and egg scenario...unless there's the capacity to fill you wont fill it. Look at West Ham...their average attendances bear no relevance to the 52k season tickets they'd sold up to last month...

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 02 Jun 16 9.40am

Exactly james! I want people on the brighton to victoria train looking to the right at selhurst station as the train flys past and saying, what the fcuk is that!

 

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Part Time James Flag 02 Jun 16 9.56am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Exactly james! I want people on the brighton to victoria train looking to the right at selhurst station as the train flys past and saying, what the fcuk is that!

You have to look at our rivals on the south coast (and I know I am starting to seem a bit obsessed with them lately). That stadium, as much of a blight on the landscape as it is, can be seen whenever you head out along the A27 and from a huge portion of the South Downs Way. A lot of people I know who watch Brighton deny that their fanbase increased when they built a shiny plastic turd with a big capacity, but they went from almost filling a stadium with a capacity of around 9,000 to regularly almost filling a stadium with a capacity of around 30,000. I do hear the argument that we might not instantly fill 40,000 seats, but I do think we'd start filling more than our current highest average quoted above at around 29k. In particular, we'd have the scope to accommodate some more away fans as well (whilst fleecing them). I reckon the demand for tickets from at least half the teams in the Premier League out-weighs the current allocation we give away teams.

 




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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 02 Jun 16 10.09am

We can hardly ever progress to a top club without at least 40k, and the way footballs going we could use top tier that isnt filled as advertising space, taking it down as we sell different isles, that way making money and having seats in place for the next generation!

 

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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 02 Jun 16 10.14am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

I've heard that this is a myth...but like you (I guess) don't know for sure

It isn't a myth and I do know for sure. See paragraph 2a of the planning application below:

[Link]

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Jun 16 10.23am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Love the optimism.

Of course we won't be back in The Championship and still with an old-fashioned, slightly crap and over-priced ground sometime before 2020.

Our owners (the British ones) are great but they aren't miracle workers. Where is the dosh coming from after wages and taxes to rebuild the ground? They won't take out a massive bank loan. At least I hope not.

As proud says, the US investment is to redevelop the ground and consequently increase the value of the business, hence the readjustment of shares in % terms (less to the original directors).

Even when the £50mil runs out after possibly the main stand, WH end and possible costs of a possible change to the Sainsburys lay out, the TV money is massive. They only allow you to increase wages by a certain amount each season from that tv money and the transfer fees you pay are your choice within the more known FFP rules. Also you earn £1.2mil for every Prem place higher you finish.

We've already saved about £20mil I think before the £50mil investment. How many more seasons of profits would be needed to cover the cost of the main stand and the WH End? I doubt many more and I doubt it's any time soon we'll need to cover the costs of further work with the Arfur and The Holmesdale so I wouldn't worry.

I wouldn't worry about us being able to afford it overall and it's one upside of not having to pay for a whole stadium in one go.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (02 Jun 2016 10.48am)

 


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-TUX- Flag Alphabettispaghetti 02 Jun 16 10.42am Send a Private Message to -TUX- Add -TUX- as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

We can hardly ever progress to a top club without at least 40k, and the way footballs going we could use top tier that isnt filled as advertising space, taking it down as we sell different isles, that way making money and having seats in place for the next generation!

Which brings us nicely back to James' 'moat'

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 02 Jun 16 11.01am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

It isn't a myth and I do know for sure. See paragraph 2a of the planning application below:

[Link]

Excellent...thanks for sharing

 


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Hoof Hearted 02 Jun 16 11.23am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Highest average gate ever 29,900 season 69/70. Unsold tickets last season around 25,000. We don't need 40,000 seats. The stadium would never sell out.

What's happened to you Kermit?

Every post you make is doom and gloom it seems!

What became of the vibrant funny devil may care bloke that amused us all and was the voice of reason just a short time ago?

WTF

 

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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 02 Jun 16 11.23am Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Highest average gate ever 29,900 season 69/70. Unsold tickets last season around 25,000. We don't need 40,000 seats. The stadium would never sell out.

How you can compare gates of season 69/70 to now is a complete joke. It's a different generation! Games are sold out almost every week and the club can easily sell up to 31k when the Main Stand is fully built. Then the club will increase the Whitehorse will take it from there. Even if the 40k stadium is full for half the games and 3/4 full for the rest, who cares? You only have to look at the financial figures of each PL club to know we can't compete unless we have a 40k plus stadium. And if you don't back us to stay in the Premier League over the coming years, win something and even dream of doing a Leicester, then not sure we want that support.

 

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