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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 24 Nov 16 3.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Not really the point. It is pervasive bias that influences the gullible. Who is this gullible audience that's being so manipulated? Bearing in mind the majority of voters just voted in favour of Brexit and a Tory government last year, doesn't sound like the hippy-dippy agenda you think ITV are pushing is finding its gullible target?
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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Nov 16 3.19pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Muslim loon = jihadist. Far right loon = lone wolf I'd say that the media did everything possible to paint Muslim attacks in Europe as "lone wolf" until Paris, when it became clear that it was more of a pack.Oh not to mention the casualties being in the hundreds. One woman killed = Nazi uprising. Hundreds killed by ISIS sympathisers = Let's not blame Islam.
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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Nov 16 3.20pm | |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
Who is this gullible audience that's being so manipulated? Bearing in mind the majority of voters just voted in favour of Brexit and a Tory government last year, doesn't sound like the hippy-dippy agenda you think ITV are pushing is finding its gullible target? Today perhaps, but what of tomorrow?
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Nov 16 3.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'd say that the media did everything possible to paint Muslim attacks in Europe as "lone wolf" until Paris, when it became clear that it was more of a pack.Oh not to mention the casualties being in the hundreds. One woman killed = Nazi uprising. Hundreds killed by ISIS sympathisers = Let's not blame Islam. Ok, playing devil's advocate, let's blame Islam for the ISIS attacks. What next? What does this mean for ordinary Muslims? Edited by nickgusset (24 Nov 2016 3.24pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Nov 16 3.47pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Ok, playing devil's advocate, let's blame Islam for the ISIS attacks. What next? What does this mean for ordinary Muslims? Edited by nickgusset (24 Nov 2016 3.24pm) I was countering your last ridiculous post. What does liberal propaganda mean for the majority? Easy this game isn't it.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Nov 16 3.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I was countering your last ridiculous post. What does liberal propaganda mean for the majority? Easy this game isn't it. I was being serious. You (by complaining that you can't blame Islam for ISIS) have essentially blamed Islam for Isis. Can you expand on this? Whilst we are on the subject of the news, do you think Cox's killer was affected by the constant hate lies and half truths about anything muslim or foreign or European in the UK media of late?
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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Nov 16 3.58pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I was being serious. You (by complaining that you can't blame Islam for ISIS) have essentially blamed Islam for Isis. Can you expand on this? Whilst we are on the subject of the news, do you think Cox's killer was affected by the constant hate lies and half truths about anything muslim or foreign or European in the UK media of late? Oh no, not the straw man again. I was countering your nonsense.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Nov 16 4.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'd say that the media did everything possible to paint Muslim attacks in Europe as "lone wolf" until Paris, when it became clear that it was more of a pack.Oh not to mention the casualties being in the hundreds. One woman killed = Nazi uprising. Hundreds killed by ISIS sympathisers = Let's not blame Islam. I think its important to blame ISIS when its ISIS' fault, rather than blaming Muslims as a whole. Same way that someone like Muir isn't the far right, he's on the fringe of the far right (probably associated with National Action rather than Britain First) - And he'd be their second political motivated murderer. There is a massive gulf between groups like UKIP and the BNP, EDL, Britain First and then them and National Action / Combat 18 et al. Much as there is between people being Muslims and being ISIS. National Action have adopted Muir's 'Death to Traitors, Freedom for Britian' as their moto and are a 'direct action' group. It would be erroneous to suggest people like Muir are are anything more than a tiny minority of the far right. However they are definitely also more than a few loan wolfs. The far right in the UK is about as poorly unified as the far left, maybe worse, consisting of numerous groups ranging from the more political to the militant minded (and in between). Its important to remember that whilst groups like the BNP and EDL have some fascist and neo-Nazi members and similarities, they aren't. Not in the way groups like National Action, The Infidels (related to the National Front) and Combat 18 who openly embrace Fascism and National Socialist political beliefs at their core. They might only number a few hundred or so members across the UK (probably not much more than 1000 or so).
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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Nov 16 4.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'd say that the media did everything possible to paint Muslim attacks in Europe as "lone wolf" until Paris, when it became clear that it was more of a pack.Oh not to mention the casualties being in the hundreds. One woman killed = Nazi uprising. Hundreds killed by ISIS sympathisers = Let's not blame Islam. Actually its tens of thousands killed by ISIS. Most of them Muslims.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Nov 16 4.10pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Oh no, not the straw man again. I was countering your nonsense. You haven't countered anything. Not even the why the daily mail buried the conviction of someone who killed an MP on p.30. An MP was killed and it's on page 30!
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elgrande bedford 24 Nov 16 4.15pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I was being serious. You (by complaining that you can't blame Islam for ISIS) have essentially blamed Islam for Isis. Can you expand on this? Whilst we are on the subject of the news, do you think Cox's killer was affected by the constant hate lies and half truths about anything muslim or foreign or European in the UK media of late? So what is this constant hate of everything forgien you speak of then nick.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Nov 16 4.20pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
So what is this constant hate of everything forgien you speak of then nick. Isn't this the reverse of what you were accusing Nick of, because I certainly remember a lot of coverage on the trials of those child sex gangs, and a lot of outcry against the police and social services who TOTALLY allowed it to happen. Then again the BBC hasn't had the best reputation for breaking stories about pedophiles....
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