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rob1969 Banstead Surrey 09 Apr 24 3.51pm | |
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Originally posted by ambrose7
It doesn't matter a jot that they have to play Arsenal and Liverpool. They have 2 more golden chances to win that don't include Forest at home where they will also be favourites. Meanwhile, we don't have a single fixture left that we are favourites for. Surely anyone would swap our fixtures for theirs in a heartbeat? Cannot see us getting more than another 3 or 4 points so quite possible Everton will finish above us.
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est1905 09 Apr 24 5.16pm | |
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Originally posted by ambrose7
It doesn't matter a jot that they have to play Arsenal and Liverpool. They have 2 more golden chances to win that don't include Forest at home where they will also be favourites. Meanwhile, we don't have a single fixture left that we are favourites for. Surely anyone would swap our fixtures for theirs in a heartbeat? Not at all. We would be unlikely to get anything at Chelsea (never do), Arsenal and Liverpool. As for Forest, Luton and Brentford? All teams we have poor records against. Only Sheffield United presents a decent 3 point return.
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est1905 09 Apr 24 5.21pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
this morning : Everton could have pipped us, in the table, with a simple Draw. that has now become them needing a win. Everybody knows that wins are not easy to come by. A 0-0 wont be enough. Personally, i think Brentford will get above us. But 3 other teams will not all get above us. Feeling Glad all Over. Some sense!
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taylors lovechild 10 Apr 24 9.28am | |
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I do feel for the Everton supporters. They overspent and yet were still awful. From a football perspective, they are very dogged and strong defensively but they have very little to offer going forwards, the lucky goal against Burnley saving their ars*s. If DCL can rediscover some form they should be ok, but otherwise, they may have to hope some draws see them over the line. Brentford definitely look the best side I've seen in the bottom half of the table of late. I also think Sheffield Utd and Burnley could do us some favours as they are both showing a bit of fight and in recent games look better than they did against us. Hopefully we actually stay up on merit rather than relying on others though.
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MrRobbo Chaldon 10 Apr 24 9.49am | |
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Originally posted by est1905
Some sense! The worry isn't unfounded. We've only won 7 games all season. 6 of them against teams in the bottom half. And 4 of those against the bottom 2. So even the most optimistic fan will agree that we are finding wins hard to come by. So no, its not obvious where these wins are conning from. 7 games left, against: 1 team chasing the title So the 2 easiest games are both away, and whilst they are not in the hunt for anything, Wolves at least are in with a good shot of the top half. The form of the chasing pack is pretty awful, so the chances of them all overtaking us is very slim, but we aren't doing much to help ourselves at the mo.
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ambrose7 Croydon 10 Apr 24 1.00pm | |
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Originally posted by est1905
Not at all. We would be unlikely to get anything at Chelsea (never do), Arsenal and Liverpool. As for Forest, Luton and Brentford? All teams we have poor records against. Only Sheffield United presents a decent 3 point return. Our last 3 games against Forest, Luton and Brentford mustered 5 points with a goal difference of +2. Our last 3 games against Newcastle, West Ham and Villa mustered 1 point with a goal difference of -6. Using our past record of losing against some of the teams Everton have to play, and then ignoring our record of losing against the teams we have to play, is convenient but very illogical. We might get 5-7 points and I really hope we do, but our records and the league table both say we have more chance with Everton's fixtures.
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Dubai Eagle 10 Apr 24 1.10pm | |
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Im kinda hanging on to the thinking that its unlikely the relevant teams below us will all overtake us & the fact that its live sport , the end of season games often throw up surprise results -
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est1905 10 Apr 24 3.03pm | |
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Originally posted by ambrose7
Our last 3 games against Forest, Luton and Brentford mustered 5 points with a goal difference of +2. Our last 3 games against Newcastle, West Ham and Villa mustered 1 point with a goal difference of -6. Using our past record of losing against some of the teams Everton have to play, and then ignoring our record of losing against the teams we have to play, is convenient but very illogical. We might get 5-7 points and I really hope we do, but our records and the league table both say we have more chance with Everton's fixtures. I am very confident that if we get close to a full strength, fully fit team back in the next week or so (something we never had when playing earlier this season that you are ignoring when spouting stats) that we will get the 6/7 points needed.
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est1905 15 Apr 24 5.27pm | |
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Originally posted by ambrose7
It doesn't matter a jot that they have to play Arsenal and Liverpool. They have 2 more golden chances to win that don't include Forest at home where they will also be favourites. Meanwhile, we don't have a single fixture left that we are favourites for. Surely anyone would swap our fixtures for theirs in a heartbeat? Hows that pessimism going for you today? Found any more stats that point to our inevitable doom?
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Apr 24 5.54pm | |
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Originally posted by est1905
Hows that pessimism going for you today? Found any more stats that point to our inevitable doom?
Glasner, refreshingly, always looks at what we can do by playing our game and ensure we make life difficult for the opposition by identifying their weaknesses and using them to our advantage. Then, of course, the doom mongers always like to play the "Oldham" card. I think I've been pretty consistent this year in saying we can hit 40 points again, and as I've posted elsewhere, we gained 8 points in the reverse fixtures against the upcoming 6 opponents and I see no reason why we can't at least match that.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 16 Apr 24 7.43am | |
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i reckon the FA are doing a balance between a) deducting points and meting out justice and b) keeping the relegation fight exciting and interesting.
but then again, what would i know ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Apr 2024 7.48am)
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PalazioVecchio south pole 16 Apr 24 7.57am | |
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Originally posted by doombear
33 points is probably already enough. The bottom 5 teams are gash.
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