Preparing the made-up excuses for a majority 'in' vote already? That's a bit defeatist.

I do get the impression you lot are becoming 'resigned' though.

Maybe, just maybe, for workers rights, for the ex-pats, for the economy, for trade, for those that like to travel, for the less likelihood of conflict, etc.....we are possibly better off...you know...remaining?

After the PIIGS debacle, I doubt very much if they'd qualify for EU membership as an independent country.

Hell, they wouldn't even be able to enter the Eurovision Song Contest.

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Leaked papers show that the EU negotiated TTIP deal includes a clause where US pharmaceutical multinationals can sue EU member states for lack of profit. Would quite like that not to happen to be honest, would imagine that would resonate with a lot of lefties.

Probably not though. They'll vote Remain and sing "imagine there's no countries" in starry eyed, fluffy clouded wonder.

The problem with the Bremaniacs is they have no sense of national identity. They loath everything that is great about England and they think we're all a bunch of nasty colonialist thugs, that's why they love the idea of us being superseded into a European super state and being told what to do by faceless and un-elected beurocrats. Just to think our grandfathers and forefathers thought for freedom from this kind of thing and the tyranny of forced rule only for these self hating clowns to undo all that they thought for. I feel strongly about this having been a serving soldier and fighting in the theater of war. No doubt some leftist clown will call me a baby killing monster for revealing I was a soldier. That actually happened to a friend of mine who was walking down the street in his uniform with his colleagues. This is the kind of warped mentality of the left and bremain. If I didn't know better I'd say they were in the advanced stages of mental illness...whoops!

The problem with the Bremaniacs is they have no sense of national identity. They loath everything that is great about England and they think we're all a bunch of nasty colonialist thugs, that's why they love the idea of us being superseded into a European super state and being told what to do by faceless and un-elected beurocrats. Just to think our grandfathers and forefathers thought for freedom from this kind of thing and the tyranny of forced rule only for these self hating clowns to undo all that they thought for. I feel strongly about this having been a serving soldier and fighting in the theater of war. No doubt some leftist clown will call me a baby killing monster for revealing I was a soldier. That actually happened to a friend of mine who was walking down the street in his uniform with his colleagues. This is the kind of warped mentality of the left and bremain. If I didn't know better I'd say they were in the advanced stages of mental illness...whoops!

What a load of reactionary, angry bollocks. With non-sarcastic and genuine respect for your service, don't assume that anyone who isn't desperate for a Brexit is even one of the things you claim they are in that post.

Some would argue that such closed-mindedness and abuse for anyone with a different view to yours is the typical, warped mentality of the right and brexiteers. I wouldn't, because I respect your right to your own views.

Perhaps you should do the same, even if you don't want to understand why other people think differently to you.

For the record, an EU super state is only marginally less horrific a prospect than the Tories scaring the electorate into voting them in again and proceeding to finish the job of selling off all our national instiutions to their mates whilst telling us how lucky we are to be safe from all those foreigners.