The economic system you are referring to isn't specific to us it's global. To remove it would require revolution.

Reading your criticisms of the financial sector I'm reminded of a few rather deeply infamous figures of the past with similar criticisms.

It's something both ends of the left and right agree on but when we see you views on third world foreigners we see the difference.

You just don't like the higher end of the globalized system, whereas you're fine with our country being replaced with low wage foreigners.

Again, you state we blame them, when this point was already correctly answered....we don't.

We simply put our indigenous people first.....just like every country outside of Europe does.

The people we blame are the far left organisations and activists working to take Europe away from Europeans and the neo liberal capitalists, who will never live with the problem, looking to gain new debt slaves on lower wages.

Immigration can be solved with political will and the willingness to stand up to the elites......However, removing the elites themselves and changing the system is order of magnitude more radical and difficult.

Orban would be the correct future for the UK.....but we don't have an Orban yet and the time is running out.

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I'm just interested to know what in your eyes 'standing up to elites' looks like, given that when I look at the government, I see a former Goldman Sachs employee as Chancellor, an old Etonian as Prime Minister, and a treasury staffed mainly with former financiers. You don't get more elite than that.

To this end, voting Tory to try and change things is akin to turkeys voting for Christmas.

The chancellor is worth £2 billion- just thought i"d throw that in, in case anybody reading this in days didn"t know, thats £ 2000 million- just in case anybodys maths isn"t great,mind boggling, married in to it to be fair on him but still , just rememberas you take a leisurely drive through the cotswolds, we"re all in this together!

It's worth looking at for sure.

Let's take the past few years. We've had the hostile environment, repeated efforts to reduce net migration to below 100 thousand and of course Brexit.

Just flicking through the Evening Standard's coverage of Goldman Sachs in that time is a good way of gauging how they feel...

'Overseas investors shrug off Brexit jitters by investing £7billion on London offices', while 'Goldman Sachs vice-chairman Richard Gnodde said the long lease of its Plumtree Court site “demonstrates our continued commitment to London” (2017) [Link]

Revealed: New £1bn London HQ of Goldman Sachs - which boasts resting rooms for tired bankers, lactation suites for mothers, a nursery and pre-school (2019) [Link]

"The boss of Goldman Sachs has admitted that the impact of Brexit has not been as bad as he expected it to be" [Link]

Migration, ultimately, doesn't affect their bottom line. Put in more robust financial regulation, increase corporation tax and close down our offshore principalities, however...

I'm asking whether you think we as a society should be ok with this.

Honestly I recommend to you all this book Moneyland as it's a brilliant analysis of the modern economy. For me there are three things we should be concerned about as UK citizens about this form of economy...

1. It is a surefire means of inflation. We most evidently see this in property, which obviously has a huge knock on in to local business, and is a large part of the reason why high streets are empty and housing is so extortionate.

2. It infiltrates our politics. There's a great bit in the book about Jersey. 100 000 population, but with some of the wealthiest Trust accounts in the world running through it. The financiers are so intertwined within the political system there that they are above the law. The book tells of a time when the Jersey police force brought in two of Britain's most high profile police, and they found a child sex ring operated by the same people, widescale crime cover ups, all because the accused had designed the legal system to cover themselves. You don't have to dig too far into our politics to see the risk of something similar happening is very high.

3. It's bad enough having foreign criminals hiding their wealth in London, but what about when they start bleeding our assets dry? Contracts in our rail, health and public utilities have been bought up by companies whose shareholders run identical financial set ups. So our government pays out millions of taxpayers' money, the shareholders get paid it in dividends, and that money is then taxed in the Cayman islands. Hence we lose billions in revenue, have to close down vital pubic services, and see real wages fall sharper than they have since Nelson was fighting Napoleon.

Again, if someone can give me a detailed analysis of how this is the fault of refugees I'd be grateful. If anything, most of them are probably fleeing from the same people who are hiding the exploited profits in London property.

I'd suggest he wouldn't be so quick to part with his own money as he is with public money recently.

If he married into it, not like he's going to see any of it - that's only a small clothes, shoes and gallivanting budget if my missus is anything to go by. She'd go through a couple of billion in a week, no problem.

if these new arrivals are mostly Christian, then it would be Londonnesburg