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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Mar 24 2.28pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

You obviously haven’t been aware of the mis-gendering ‘crime’ that’s currently in vogue. Man wants to be addressed as a woman; others have to abide by that request…

Much more than you could possibly imagine but it’s unrelated to the issue being discussed

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Mar 24 2.52pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

We both agree that identity politics is not desirable, nor rigid racial descriptions.

The problem is that some of us think that surrendering our own identity and encouraging self hate and guilt related to so called 'privilege' and history is a way to cure all these ills.

It 100% is not.

We have to recognise the tribalism and self interest inherent in all human beings, and acknowledge that the 10% of Europeans on this planet will be undermined and swept away unless we stop fretting about everyone else's needs and ambitions and focus on our own.

No other racial, cultural or religious group on Earth spends so much time trying to destroy itself.

We do agree about your first paragraph.

I do not though think as you suggest in the second.I see no reason at all for us to carry the actions of our forefathers on our shoulders unless we perpetuate them. Some of them us try hard not to. Others less so. There is nothing wrong in celebrating and treasuring our history, but it also wise and honourable to acknowledge mistakes that can only now be recognised with the benefit of experience and hindsight.

There is no reason at all why the people, traditions and culture of Europe will be swept away. The mix of people who identify themselves as European will go on evolving just as it always has. In other parts of the world where Europeans have settled there will be a similar process and new cultures will emerge which blend a variety of elements. It’s really nothing new

The only ones fretting about are the likes of you

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 17 Mar 24 5.03pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We do agree about your first paragraph.

I do not though think as you suggest in the second.I see no reason at all for us to carry the actions of our forefathers on our shoulders unless we perpetuate them. Some of them us try hard not to. Others less so. There is nothing wrong in celebrating and treasuring our history, but it also wise and honourable to acknowledge mistakes that can only now be recognised with the benefit of experience and hindsight.

There is no reason at all why the people, traditions and culture of Europe will be swept away. The mix of people who identify themselves as European will go on evolving just as it always has. In other parts of the world where Europeans have settled there will be a similar process and new cultures will emerge which blend a variety of elements. It’s really nothing new

The only ones fretting about are the likes of you

By evolve you mean outbred and diluted out of existence like the Neanderthal.

The only blend you get when you slowly mix 90% and 10% is a whole lot of the 90%.
It really doesn't require a masters in genetics or a membership to a far right wing party to accept this simple reality.

Only those attempting to obfuscate will deny it in favour of smears, illogical rhetoric with talk of 'evolution'.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 17 Mar 24 7.35pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Great British fish and chips not acceptable

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Mar 24 8.03pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Great British fish and chips not acceptable

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What do you expect it's Greenwich council.

 


One more point

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 17 Mar 24 8.19pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

You obviously haven’t been aware of the mis-gendering ‘crime’ that’s currently in vogue. Man wants to be addressed as a woman; others have to abide by that request…

Enoch Burke has already done a punitively long stretch in Prison. Contempt of Court.....connected to a row about his/her/they.

In the 1984 of Big Brother, it was a crime to speak the truth.

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 17 Mar 24 8.36pm Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Great British fish and chips not acceptable

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Probably not approved via the Council’s planning committee. He should have just projected the message onto the Houses of Parliament; no need for any pesky procedure…

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Mar 24 10.27pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

By evolve you mean outbred and diluted out of existence like the Neanderthal.

The only blend you get when you slowly mix 90% and 10% is a whole lot of the 90%.
It really doesn't require a masters in genetics or a membership to a far right wing party to accept this simple reality.

Only those attempting to obfuscate will deny it in favour of smears, illogical rhetoric with talk of 'evolution'.

Your blind acceptance of the “Great Replacement Theory” is overwhelming the actual facts. So let’s look at those two claims.

Firstly, all the people who are living here now and in the future are Homo sapiens. The Neanderthals were not. They were eventually dominated by us because we were superior in minor, but important ways.

Now let’s look at the numbers. In the year to June 2022 around 15% of us weren’t born here. However that included around 5% from the EU countries, people I assume you aren’t concerned about. So around 10% of concern and 90% of no concern. The complete reverse of your scenario described above.

Your hypothesis depends on the assumption that all trends go in straight lines, but that has never been true and won’t be in the future. More sophisticated predictions are required and you can find them here:-

[Link]

I urge you to read this in full. Of particular relevance when assessing the validity of your claims is this:-

“ONS figures show that in 2021, 28.8% of births in the UK were to non-UK born mothers. This is higher than the share of non-UK born people in the UK population, primarily because non-UK born women are more likely to be of childbearing age. The estimated total fertility rate of foreign-born women living in the UK has declined over the past 10 years to just below ‘replacement rate’, and stood at 2.03 in 2021. This compared to 1.54 for UK-born women. Note that these figures include non-UK born women regardless of how long they have lived in the UK.”

So as people settle they adjust and adopt similar patterns to the UK born. With the overall numbers forecasted to decline there is no risk at all of the situation you foresee actually happening. It’s simply scaremongering.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Mar 24 10.39pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You heard it here first folks.

White people are a 'right wing idea'.

Not the simple term but the extension placed upon it by those who claim there is a “white” race of European origin. The people who do this tend to also hold extreme right wing ideas.

They, of course, deny and obfuscate, as some of the associations have historical unpleasantness.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 17 Mar 24 11.26pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Wisbech has been wasting our time since he joined this site.

He enjoys it.

However, he has sunk to a new level of delusion recently.

I find him useful. He represents everything I hate about hypocritical, narcissistic liberals.

He strengthens my resolve and reminds me who the enemy really is.

I have stopped engaging with him directly.

I find the know it all attitude and delusions of adequacy simply unbearable, others may have entirely different views.


I have no problem with everyone having an opinion but his arrogance and faux superiority complex plus his " my opinions are facts " attitude is not worth engaging with.

I can see the point you make about having a degree of use, albeit a small one

Refer to my signature about RDD
Edited by HKOwen (18 Mar 2024 12.14am)

Edited by HKOwen (18 Mar 2024 12.20am)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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The Dolphin Flag 18 Mar 24 4.53am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

This is meant to be about the BBC?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Mar 24 8.22am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Your blind acceptance of the “Great Replacement Theory” is overwhelming the actual facts. So let’s look at those two claims.

Firstly, all the people who are living here now and in the future are Homo sapiens. The Neanderthals were not. They were eventually dominated by us because we were superior in minor, but important ways.

Now let’s look at the numbers. In the year to June 2022 around 15% of us weren’t born here. However that included around 5% from the EU countries, people I assume you aren’t concerned about. So around 10% of concern and 90% of no concern. The complete reverse of your scenario described above.

Your hypothesis depends on the assumption that all trends go in straight lines, but that has never been true and won’t be in the future. More sophisticated predictions are required and you can find them here:-

[Link]

I urge you to read this in full. Of particular relevance when assessing the validity of your claims is this:-

“ONS figures show that in 2021, 28.8% of births in the UK were to non-UK born mothers. This is higher than the share of non-UK born people in the UK population, primarily because non-UK born women are more likely to be of childbearing age. The estimated total fertility rate of foreign-born women living in the UK has declined over the past 10 years to just below ‘replacement rate’, and stood at 2.03 in 2021. This compared to 1.54 for UK-born women. Note that these figures include non-UK born women regardless of how long they have lived in the UK.”

So as people settle they adjust and adopt similar patterns to the UK born. With the overall numbers forecasted to decline there is no risk at all of the situation you foresee actually happening. It’s simply scaremongering.

This is a great post... Because it displays your incredible ignorance.

First. Neanderthals disappeared because there were far fewer of them than modern humans. We still carry a few percent of their genes. They were absorbed. Evidence suggests that they were sophisticated and actually had bigger brains than us. There is no evidence that they were 'dominated' other than in numbers.

Fact. The proportion of migrants has risen rapidly in the past 50 years.
Fact. Immigration is increasing.
Fact. First generation migrants tend to have more children than the British average. Even if the birth rate declines through subsequent generations, the population is continuously refreshed by new arrivals with higher birth rates.

Conclusion. The only way to avoid becoming a minority and eventually non existent is to halt mass migration. Your assertion relies on a total reversal of current policy and a deluded belief that a desire to migrate to Europe will decline.

Can you point to any evidence that this is likely to happen?

 

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