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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Mar 24 8.25am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

This is meant to be about the BBC?

We changed the channel.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 24 8.48am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

I have stopped engaging with him directly.

I find the know it all attitude and delusions of adequacy simply unbearable, others may have entirely different views.


I have no problem with everyone having an opinion but his arrogance and faux superiority complex plus his " my opinions are facts " attitude is not worth engaging with.

I can see the point you make about having a degree of use, albeit a small one

Refer to my signature about RDD
Edited by HKOwen (18 Mar 2024 12.14am)

Edited by HKOwen (18 Mar 2024 12.20am)

I welcome you not responding to me directly. Continuous rudeness is boring. You are though obsessed with some kind of irrational dislike of me, which is an odd phenomenon. It won't though stop me from commenting on some of the things you claim.

There is only one "know it all" poster here and it isn't me. We all know who that is. It may have escaped your notice but there are many subjects I avoid completely. Why? Because I don't know enough to make a contribution.

For the avoidance of doubt my opinions are not facts. Facts are facts and if I state one I will say so. If I don't it's an opinion.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 18 Mar 24 9.38am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I welcome you not responding to me directly. Continuous rudeness is boring. You are though obsessed with some kind of irrational dislike of me, which is an odd phenomenon. It won't though stop me from commenting on some of the things you claim.

There is only one "know it all" poster here and it isn't me. We all know who that is. It may have escaped your notice but there are many subjects I avoid completely. Why? Because I don't know enough to make a contribution.

For the avoidance of doubt my opinions are not facts. Facts are facts and if I state one I will say so. If I don't it's an opinion.

If you think that people on here disliking you is an 'odd phenomenon', then you are even more deluded than we thought.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Mar 24 10.06am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

If you think that people on here disliking you is an 'odd phenomenon', then you are even more deluded than we thought.

It's probably fair to say that an Internet persona will only be a small element of someone's real world personality.

I would guess that I am probably nothing like people might perceive from here, and I hope to god for Wisbech's sake that he is a much more likeable fellow in real life and is not as combative when not in a defensive posture.

Of course the fact that he is happy to see his offspring become a minority and his totally irrational loyalty to Brussels is hard to swallow.
Don't get me started on his inability to have any objectivity with American politics.

I'm sure his friends are all likewise deluded.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Mar 2024 10.08am)

 

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becky Flag over the moon 18 Mar 24 1.34pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

MODERATION POST

This thread has become nothing more than a commentary on/defense of people's opinions of other posters.

Please return to commenting on the BBC and not on other posters

Thank You

 


A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Mar 24 2.24pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

#defundthebbc

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 24 2.35pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is a great post... Because it displays your incredible ignorance.

First. Neanderthals disappeared because there were far fewer of them than modern humans. We still carry a few percent of their genes. They were absorbed. Evidence suggests that they were sophisticated and actually had bigger brains than us. There is no evidence that they were 'dominated' other than in numbers.

Fact. The proportion of migrants has risen rapidly in the past 50 years.
Fact. Immigration is increasing.
Fact. First generation migrants tend to have more children than the British average. Even if the birth rate declines through subsequent generations, the population is continuously refreshed by new arrivals with higher birth rates.

Conclusion. The only way to avoid becoming a minority and eventually non existent is to halt mass migration. Your assertion relies on a total reversal of current policy and a deluded belief that a desire to migrate to Europe will decline.

Can you point to any evidence that this is likely to happen?

I will indeed return to the BBC after I have answered the claims made in the above, which ought not, in my opinion, be allowed to stand unchallenged.

What is true is that no-one knows for sure exactly what triggered the decline and eventual extinction of the Neanderthals. There is still a lot of debate about it as can be read here:-

[Link]

What is certain is they weren't simply absorbed. Something caused Homo sapiens to dominate. Their brains are thought to have been around the same size as ours, some think perhaps even bigger, but since when did size matter? It's how you use it. I would have thought you understood that principle! We developed skills that either by good fortune, or deliberate application, enabled us to survive and prosper, whilst the Neanderthals did not.

You clearly have not read the link I provided to the "Migration Observatory". Please do. They have much more experience and knowledge than anyone posting here. What they suggest will happen are not my assertions. They are there's. Here it is again:-

[Link]

Nothing you suggest will happen fits with the scenario described within the above.

I am sure you will try to challenge the work of the Migration Observatory and claim it's politically biased etc, etc. It isn't:-

[Link]

I am sure the BBC, being our responsible public broadcaster who are trusted the world over to deliver well researched facts and opinions, would totally agree with the Migration Observatory's analysis.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Mar 24 2.57pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I will indeed return to the BBC after I have answered the claims made in the above, which ought not, in my opinion, be allowed to stand unchallenged.

What is true is that no-one knows for sure exactly what triggered the decline and eventual extinction of the Neanderthals. There is still a lot of debate about it as can be read here:-

[Link]

What is certain is they weren't simply absorbed. Something caused Homo sapiens to dominate. Their brains are thought to have been around the same size as ours, some think perhaps even bigger, but since when did size matter? It's how you use it. I would have thought you understood that principle! We developed skills that either by good fortune, or deliberate application, enabled us to survive and prosper, whilst the Neanderthals did not.

You clearly have not read the link I provided to the "Migration Observatory". Please do. They have much more experience and knowledge than anyone posting here. What they suggest will happen are not my assertions. They are there's. Here it is again:-

[Link]

Nothing you suggest will happen fits with the scenario described within the above.

I am sure you will try to challenge the work of the Migration Observatory and claim it's politically biased etc, etc. It isn't:-

[Link]

I am sure the BBC, being our responsible public broadcaster who are trusted the world over to deliver well researched facts and opinions, would totally agree with the Migration Observatory's analysis.

Of course you are, because you are that gullible.

There is speculation, extrapolation, pure propaganda and then facts.

Fact. The immigrant population has grown rapidly.
Fact. Immigration is increasing.
Fact. European birth rate is continuing to fall.
Fact. Migrant birth rate is higher and is perpetuating increasing population levels in Britian.

Speculation. Migration is very likely to increase due to climate change, increasing global population and greater friction between various groups.
Propaganda. None of those facts can be used to extrapolate a prediction for the future make up of the British population.

You and the BBC are denying facts and employing spin based on nothing.

How high would the percentage of non White British have to be before you stopped this ridiculous pretence?

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 24 5.25pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Of course you are, because you are that gullible.

There is speculation, extrapolation, pure propaganda and then facts.

Fact. The immigrant population has grown rapidly.
Fact. Immigration is increasing.
Fact. European birth rate is continuing to fall.
Fact. Migrant birth rate is higher and is perpetuating increasing population levels in Britian.

Speculation. Migration is very likely to increase due to climate change, increasing global population and greater friction between various groups.
Propaganda. None of those facts can be used to extrapolate a prediction for the future make up of the British population.

You and the BBC are denying facts and employing spin based on nothing.

How high would the percentage of non White British have to be before you stopped this ridiculous pretence?

You still haven't read it have you? Do you believe you instinctively know better than specialised researchers?

Let's look at your 4 "facts"! None of which are actually facts.

1) The immigrant population has grown. Whether rapidly is an opinion, not a fact.

2) Whether immigration is increasing depends on future unknown events, so is not a fact. It is speculation which is more likely, in the short term, to prove true, but in the longer term is not.

3) European birth rate has fallen. Whether it continues is also speculation, not fact.

4) Migrant birth rates are higher primarily because their average age is lower than those here already. Once settled it falls to around the same level. So it is not a fact that this will permanently increase the population levels.

Do you not think that research specialists take into account the impact of things like climate change? This is an area with so many unknowns that making reliable predictions must be near to impossible.

So at least one of your statements is almost correct. I've altered a key word:-

"None of your facts can be used to extrapolate a prediction for the future make up of the British population."

As I reject the concept of a "White" and "Non-White" division between British people there is no answer to your silly question. All that matters to me is the way people behave, the values they hold and the respect they show for our country, its culture and heritage. Those things are important. Skin colour is not.

That work needs to be done with some immigrant groups to ensure those expectations are met is clearly true. So is the fact that time helps to achieve that. As I said a while ago none of these things proceed in straight lines and your extrapolations all make the error of assuming they do.

Please read, digest and understand the report by The Migration Observatory.

 


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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Mar 24 5.51pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You still haven't read it have you? Do you believe you instinctively know better than specialised researchers?

Let's look at your 4 "facts"! None of which are actually facts.

1) The immigrant population has grown. Whether rapidly is an opinion, not a fact.

2) Whether immigration is increasing depends on future unknown events, so is not a fact. It is speculation which is more likely, in the short term, to prove true, but in the longer term is not.

3) European birth rate has fallen. Whether it continues is also speculation, not fact.

4) Migrant birth rates are higher primarily because their average age is lower than those here already. Once settled it falls to around the same level. So it is not a fact that this will permanently increase the population levels.

Do you not think that research specialists take into account the impact of things like climate change? This is an area with so many unknowns that making reliable predictions must be near to impossible.

So at least one of your statements is almost correct. I've altered a key word:-

"None of your facts can be used to extrapolate a prediction for the future make up of the British population."

As I reject the concept of a "White" and "Non-White" division between British people there is no answer to your silly question. All that matters to me is the way people behave, the values they hold and the respect they show for our country, its culture and heritage. Those things are important. Skin colour is not.

That work needs to be done with some immigrant groups to ensure those expectations are met is clearly true. So is the fact that time helps to achieve that. As I said a while ago none of these things proceed in straight lines and your extrapolations all make the error of assuming they do.

Please read, digest and understand the report by The Migration Observatory.

Err, 'scuse me, this is about that woke left wing biased bbc or had you forgot. Yellow suits you xx

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Mar 24 6.44pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You still haven't read it have you? Do you believe you instinctively know better than specialised researchers?

Let's look at your 4 "facts"! None of which are actually facts.

1) The immigrant population has grown. Whether rapidly is an opinion, not a fact.

2) Whether immigration is increasing depends on future unknown events, so is not a fact. It is speculation which is more likely, in the short term, to prove true, but in the longer term is not.

3) European birth rate has fallen. Whether it continues is also speculation, not fact.

4) Migrant birth rates are higher primarily because their average age is lower than those here already. Once settled it falls to around the same level. So it is not a fact that this will permanently increase the population levels.

Do you not think that research specialists take into account the impact of things like climate change? This is an area with so many unknowns that making reliable predictions must be near to impossible.

So at least one of your statements is almost correct. I've altered a key word:-

"None of your facts can be used to extrapolate a prediction for the future make up of the British population."

As I reject the concept of a "White" and "Non-White" division between British people there is no answer to your silly question. All that matters to me is the way people behave, the values they hold and the respect they show for our country, its culture and heritage. Those things are important. Skin colour is not.

That work needs to be done with some immigrant groups to ensure those expectations are met is clearly true. So is the fact that time helps to achieve that. As I said a while ago none of these things proceed in straight lines and your extrapolations all make the error of assuming they do.

Please read, digest and understand the report by The Migration Observatory.

I'm done arguing on this subject. You don't seem to be able to comprehend basic realities. You simply adjust reality to fit your own ideology.

You believe the BBC if you like. I will believe demonstrable facts and the evidence I see with my own eyes.


A brief look at your link and I can already see that the projections used are far below the actual numbers for 2023 for starters. I does not disprove anything I have stated.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Mar 2024 6.52pm)

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 18 Mar 24 9.47pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

#defundthebbc

de-fund them of your money.

boycott them of your brain.

tell your MP to shut down the BBC

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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