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View CambridgeEagle's Profile CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 24 Apr 17 9.34am Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I think if our player was Grujic and got a 'Red', HOL would be criticising the referee.
Incidentally, Grujic was Klopp's first signing at Liverpool.

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I'm not sure they would have! It was a shocking challenge. I think we'd at least on here say it was a poor challenge made due to desperation at losing the ball and them being 2-1 down at home. I think the other way round we'd be saying he was lucky not to get sent off if it was a yellow!

Your obsession with defending every bungling referee and every bad/wrong/incompetent decision they make continues to mystify me.

 

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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 24 Apr 17 9.39am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

It was a straight red challenge ,the guy should thank his lucky stars that he was booked which stops any retrospective action from the FA .

 

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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 24 Apr 17 10.31am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I think if our player was Grujic and got a 'Red', HOL would be criticising the referee.
Incidentally, Grujic was Klopp's first signing at Liverpool.

I don't think so. If one of our players did that tackle, we would be criticising him for such a reckless tackle. I'm amazed that it didn't get shown on MOTD when they spent so much time discussing Liverpool not getting a penalty (which they should have).

The FA can still act retrospectively, just because a yellow was shown doesn't stop them. However they wont.

 


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View SeagullHunter's Profile SeagullHunter Flag Reading 24 Apr 17 11.11am Send a Private Message to SeagullHunter Add SeagullHunter as a friend

Originally posted by topcat

I don't think so. If one of our players did that tackle, we would be criticising him for such a reckless tackle. I'm amazed that it didn't get shown on MOTD when they spent so much time discussing Liverpool not getting a penalty (which they should have).

The FA can still act retrospectively, just because a yellow was shown doesn't stop them. However they wont.

'which they should have' - really? The referee allowed play to go on, in a goalscoring opportunity which they didnt take. You can't have the best of both worlds. If a referee plays advantage and the allotted time is up, he shouldn't bring the play back.

 


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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 24 Apr 17 11.21am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Originally posted by SeagullHunter

'which they should have' - really? The referee allowed play to go on, in a goalscoring opportunity which they didnt take. You can't have the best of both worlds. If a referee plays advantage and the allotted time is up, he shouldn't bring the play back.

That's what I think, yes, and it's what I would have wanted had it been the other way around. It's not completely black and white though as it didn't look like a foul (to me) in real time. It's only when it is replayed that you see that he was a should have resulted in a penalty.

I'm certainly not complaining, there have been loads of penalty decisions not given to us. Some highlighted on MOTD but most not.

 


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View sa_eagle's Profile sa_eagle Flag Just outside Cape Town 24 Apr 17 11.22am Send a Private Message to sa_eagle Add sa_eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jamesrichards8

Six minutes added time was criminal too

Klopp was being given some 'fergie time'.
Quite where the hell they got 6 mins from is a mystery!

 


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chateauferret Flag 24 Apr 17 11.24am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

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I'm not sure they would have! It was a shocking challenge. I think we'd at least on here say it was a poor challenge made due to desperation at losing the ball and them being 2-1 down at home. I think the other way round we'd be saying he was lucky not to get sent off if it was a yellow!

Your obsession with defending every bungling referee and every bad/wrong/incompetent decision they make continues to mystify me.

I'm getting pretty fed up with the straight red assaults on our players that go unpunished or result in only a booking. Olsson for Sunderland already had a yellow when he did his and still didn't walk. Rojo, God knows how many times and he's currently enjoying a dose of his own medicine. And that one yesterday was as blatant and obvious a straight red card as you could ever expect to see. Stupid, reckless, dangerous challenge with his foot up and studs out and about 200 years late and done on purpose because he knew Tomkinds had won the ball fairly. Doing that on purpose to a player and putting him out for a whole lot of matches is just disgusting and even a sending-off and a three-match ban is lenient: Tomkins could easily miss more than three matches.

The ref made his decision instantly without thinking about it, consulting the other officials, or knowing what damage had been done. That's plain incompetence, if it isn't bias, and if people acted like this anywhere else they'd be up in front of the beak on charges under the Health and Safety at Work Act.

But because it's Liverpool we carry on as if nothing had happened. Unless you're James Tomkins, that is.

 


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chateauferret Flag 24 Apr 17 11.25am

Originally posted by sa_eagle

Klopp was being given some 'fergie time'.
Quite where the hell they got 6 mins from is a mystery!

At least two of them were to reward Liverpool for trying to take Tomkins' foot off.

 


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chateauferret Flag 24 Apr 17 11.28am

Originally posted by topcat

That's what I think, yes, and it's what I would have wanted had it been the other way around. It's not completely black and white though as it didn't look like a foul (to me) in real time. It's only when it is replayed that you see that he was a should have resulted in a penalty.

I'm certainly not complaining, there have been loads of penalty decisions not given to us. Some highlighted on MOTD but most not.

Well, now if the ref is being consistent then if that was a pen so was the Benteke one. More contact on Benteke than on Coutinho. Giving both would have been consistent. Not giving either is consistent too. But if he gives the Coutinho pen he has to give ours.

Booking Benteke for a "dive" was f***ing preposterous. If you're going to allow a certain level of contact before you blow the whistle it follows that not all tumbles in the box are either a) penalties or b) simulation.

 


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View PZ Eagle's Profile PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 24 Apr 17 11.31am Send a Private Message to PZ Eagle Add PZ Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

I'm getting pretty fed up with the straight red assaults on our players that go unpunished or result in only a booking. Olsson for Sunderland already had a yellow when he did his and still didn't walk. Rojo, God knows how many times and he's currently enjoying a dose of his own medicine. And that one yesterday was as blatant and obvious a straight red card as you could ever expect to see. Stupid, reckless, dangerous challenge with his foot up and studs out and about 200 years late and done on purpose because he knew Tomkinds had won the ball fairly. Doing that on purpose to a player and putting him out for a whole lot of matches is just disgusting and even a sending-off and a three-match ban is lenient: Tomkins could easily miss more than three matches.

The ref made his decision instantly without thinking about it, consulting the other officials, or knowing what damage had been done. That's plain incompetence, if it isn't bias, and if people acted like this anywhere else they'd be up in front of the beak on charges under the Health and Safety at Work Act.

But because it's Liverpool we carry on as if nothing had happened. Unless you're James Tomkins, that is.

Quite agree with you cf but what we are forgetting is that Rojo and Grujic play for BIG clubs and, as such, have to break an opposing players leg before warranting a red card!!

 


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View Adamoc123's Profile Adamoc123 Flag Ennis 24 Apr 17 11.34am Send a Private Message to Adamoc123 Add Adamoc123 as a friend

Had he gone down he'd have got the penalty and rightly so, luckily for us his will to continue gave them the advantage which they wasted. As for the tckle on Tomkins, absolutely horrendous! thought when i saw it that was his season over.

 


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View Red Eagle's Profile Red Eagle Flag Crawley 24 Apr 17 11.38am Send a Private Message to Red Eagle Add Red Eagle as a friend

Wow! It's the first incident on Ref Watch!! They waffled around it because no one on commentary saw how nasty it was until after the replay. Well there were a few of us who saw it straightaway. At least they featured it.

 

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