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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 14 Nov 23 9.13am | |
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He'd be a big loss as I think he does a good job. However, as pathetic as it might be, I've still never forgiven him for walking out on us for Bolton or for grassing us up over the team sheets thing. So wouldn't cry too much if he goes, as he does have form for it.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Nov 23 9.25am | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
He'd be a big loss as I think he does a good job. However, as pathetic as it might be, I've still never forgiven him for walking out on us for Bolton or for grassing us up over the team sheets thing. So wouldn't cry too much if he goes, as he does have form for it. He strikes me as having either an ego or ambitions that sometimes do not correlate with his post/ability. I say that without any criticism or animosity however just an observation. Was massively to our benefit when he was scoring last minute goals at Stockport and not sure to what extent he was involved but the rebuilding of the team via Johnstone, Guehi, Andersen, Doucoure, Eze and Olise has been very welcome. If he is quite stubborn and somewhat volatile however, and has ambition beyond Palace, you do worry about his potential to cause disruption and disharmony at the club. If he goes, he goes as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure we will get over it/recover.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 14 Nov 23 9.25am | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
He'd be a big loss as I think he does a good job. However, as pathetic as it might be, I've still never forgiven him for walking out on us for Bolton or for grassing us up over the team sheets thing. So wouldn't cry too much if he goes, as he does have form for it. That was a long time ago now and he is on record as saying that he regrets it. If his employer is willing to forgive and forget, then I think you should too !
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 14 Nov 23 9.31am | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
He strikes me as having either an ego or ambitions that sometimes do not correlate with his post/ability. I say that without any criticism or animosity however just an observation. Was massively to our benefit when he was scoring last minute goals at Stockport and not sure to what extent he was involved but the rebuilding of the team via Johnstone, Guehi, Andersen, Doucoure, Eze and Olise has been very welcome. If he is quite stubborn and somewhat volatile however, and has ambition beyond Palace, you do worry about his potential to cause disruption and disharmony at the club. If he goes, he goes as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure we will get over it/recover. Any examples of that ? I don't think Dougie is even remotely like that in his present role. I know it's Manchester United that's supposedly interested, but taking a job there would be a massive gamble. Freedman has got it good with Palace, and I think he knows it. As a player, that's a different story. He was definitely self centred, but that's not uncommon in football.
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Gribbo Bromley 14 Nov 23 9.35am | |
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Spots good talent. Would not want to see him go. Although finding good players in the lower leagues is a different skill set to buying £50m+ players. Recommended for the Bolton job by Fergie, so still has his admirers at Old Trafford no doubt.
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nead1 14 Nov 23 9.35am | |
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I think he would be a very big loss; easy to forget, but he has essentially put together both the promotion winning team from the ashes of administration and the team of today with so many significant sell on values. His contribution to pretty much everything during the Parish era has been immense and he clearly has a very good eye for young talent.
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MrRobbo Chaldon 14 Nov 23 9.36am | |
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Originally posted by Vaibow
I feel dougie is great at unearthing gems from lower leagues that come good in the championship and lower ends of the prem... but scouting for united and top 6 Is different gravy.. I really struggle to agree with the idea that he's been unearthing gems. ALL the players we've signed were relatively well known/rated. I'm still yet to see a signing that couldn't have been found with the occasional reading of a newspaper.
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MrRobbo Chaldon 14 Nov 23 9.42am | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
He'd be a big loss as I think he does a good job. However, as pathetic as it might be, I've still never forgiven him for walking out on us for Bolton or for grassing us up over the team sheets thing. So wouldn't cry too much if he goes, as he does have form for it. 100% agree. It wasn't like he was a 17yr old kid, and you could excuse it. He was an adult, and a manager of a championship club. A job he only got because of his connections as a player. To jump ship at the first opportunity is really poor, and shows a general lack of loyalty and decency.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Nov 23 10.05am | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
Any examples of that ? I don't think Dougie is even remotely like that in his present role. I know it's Manchester United that's supposedly interested, but taking a job there would be a massive gamble. Freedman has got it good with Palace, and I think he knows it. As a player, that's a different story. He was definitely self centred, but that's not uncommon in football. Just the whole Bolton thing and the couple of times I've met him (literally two). Perhaps a better way to say it is I thought he took himself very seriously. Is just a very light observation I thought befitting of a fans' forum on a Tuesday morning however, nothing overly analytical.
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EddieMac 14 Nov 23 1.14pm | |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
I really struggle to agree with the idea that he's been unearthing gems. ALL the players we've signed were relatively well known/rated. I'm still yet to see a signing that couldn't have been found with the occasional reading of a newspaper. It is one thing knowing about a player but a different matter altogether getting them to sign.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 14 Nov 23 1.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Just the whole Bolton thing and the couple of times I've met him (literally two). Perhaps a better way to say it is I thought he took himself very seriously. Is just a very light observation I thought befitting of a fans' forum on a Tuesday morning however, nothing overly analytical. I wasn't having a go, I was genuinely interested. I've met Dougie on numerous occasions and found him to be very personable and without ego.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Nov 23 1.55pm | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
I wasn't having a go, I was genuinely interested. I've met Dougie on numerous occasions and found him to be very personable and without ego. I think ego could have been the wrong word Neillo, perhaps 'ambition' if you like. Would be more context for me saying 'he takes himself seriously' which is something that can be very admirable in a person but also empower them to be very capable. It's wasn't intended as a 'dig', so to speak. Perhaps even more context to my post would be to encourage others not to demand too much of Dougie purely off sentiment. If he receives a better offer, as many others would, he may take it. I'm not quite sure he'll be the next [insert famous and successful scout name] but he seems likely to go for it. And for the record I did not perceive you to be 'having a go' I was just keen to ensure I hadn't represented anything so poorly it got lost in translation
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