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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 30 Apr 17 3.09pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Is there a racial profile of offenders detailed anywhere. You've hypothesised, why don't you find out then make a reasoned remark/conclusion based on facts rather than conjecture. I don't know if you are right or wrong, and to be fair, I bet you don't either.

If not it's lazy Muslim bashing.

No its not I put it out there.
Do you really think there will be any racial profiling of the calls about hate crimes.
And has already been said,there is no proof no following up of the hate crime calls,I could, ring up now and say that I was a victim of a hate crime.
Why do you feel the need to argue with everything I say,I don't think it's that unreasonable to think because of their views that it's possible,but no you would rather blame anyone else.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Apr 17 3.30pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Is there a racial profile of offenders detailed anywhere. You've hypothesised, why don't you find out then make a reasoned remark/conclusion based on facts rather than conjecture. I don't know if you are right or wrong, and to be fair, I bet you don't either.

If not it's lazy Muslim bashing.

No, it's a reasonable question.
Many of the migrants coming here have belief systems that belong in the dark ages. Homophobia is just one of the backward attitudes that must be increasing in this country via immigration.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Apr 17 3.46pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

No, it's a reasonable question.
Many of the migrants coming here have belief systems that belong in the dark ages. Homophobia is just one of the backward attitudes that must be increasing in this country via immigration.

It's a reasonable question I agree, but no attempt has been made to find out what the facts are. If someone shows me figures or research that proves it, I'm sold. But elgrande has only given a bloke down the pub argument rather than any semblance of fact.

 

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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 30 Apr 17 3.54pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

It's a reasonable question I agree, but no attempt has been made to find out what the facts are. If someone shows me figures or research that proves it, I'm sold. But elgrande has only given a bloke down the pub argument rather than any semblance of fact.

Actually I have looked amongst the figures,and there is nothing saying it is....or ISN'T,so as I said it was a reasonable question to ask.
But you in your blind defence of everything that could be classed as racist by anybody chose to attack me on the subject.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

It's a reasonable question I agree, but no attempt has been made to find out what the facts are. If someone shows me figures or research that proves it, I'm sold. But elgrande has only given a bloke down the pub argument rather than any semblance of fact.

Or are you also denying that they have terrible views about homosexuality..

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

It's a reasonable question I agree, but no attempt has been made to find out what the facts are. If someone shows me figures or research that proves it, I'm sold. But elgrande has only given a bloke down the pub argument rather than any semblance of fact.

You don't need specific facts to know about religious attitudes toward homosexuality and a raft of other issues to know that lots of people with those beliefs are coming here every year.
You efforts to avoid the obvious are utterly pathetic and tedious.
You make yourself look exactly what you are. An apologist for backward religious persecution.

Your views on tolerance are doublethink because your own rigid ideology creates a cognitive dissonance in your limited mind.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Apr 2017 4.20pm)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Apr 17 6.08pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You don't need specific facts to know about religious attitudes toward homosexuality and a raft of other issues to know that lots of people with those beliefs are coming here every year.
You efforts to avoid the obvious are utterly pathetic and tedious.
You make yourself look exactly what you are. An apologist for backward religious persecution.

Your views on tolerance are doublethink because your own rigid ideology creates a cognitive dissonance in your limited mind.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Apr 2017 4.20pm)

Where did you copy that from?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Apr 17 6.14pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Where did you copy that from?

Eh!
Unlike you, I can actually think without the help of a campaign strategy meeting sound bite list.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Apr 17 6.27pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You don't need specific facts to know about religious attitudes toward homosexuality and a raft of other issues to know that lots of people with those beliefs are coming here every year.
You efforts to avoid the obvious are utterly pathetic and tedious.
You make yourself look exactly what you are. An apologist for backward religious persecution.

Your views on tolerance are doublethink because your own rigid ideology creates a cognitive dissonance in your limited mind.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Apr 2017 4.20pm)

You don't need facts to prove anything? Really.
I'm sorry that I want to see data facts and reports before coming to a conclusion.And you accuse islam of being backwards!

Additionally elgrande and I were discussing hate crimes and the statistics behind that, not attitudes to lgbt. Why are you shifting the goalposts.
We know that there are examples of heinous attitudes towards anyone lgbt out there in the world of Muslamics. It's s***.

There are also plenty of other groups that despise friends of Dorothy. Homophobia crosses religions.

I posted a link earlier in the thread about attitudes to homosexuality in Ghana. According to amnesty they're b******s over there (I para. Plenty of Ghanaians in the UK. Why aren't you questioning their attitudes (many of them are Christian)?
How many homophobic hate crimes are carried out by Muslims? Is it a disproportionate amount?
Come back to me with those figures and I'll gladly carry on the discussion.

 

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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 30 Apr 17 6.28pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Eh!
Unlike you, I can actually think without the help of a campaign strategy meeting sound bite list.

Revert back to insults when someone proves a point against him.

He reminds me of a spoilt child.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

You don't need facts to prove anything? Really.
I'm sorry that I want to see data facts and reports before coming to a conclusion.And you accuse islam of being backwards!

Additionally elgrande and I were discussing hate crimes and the statistics behind that, not attitudes to lgbt. Why are you shifting the goalposts.
We know that there are examples of heinous attitudes towards anyone lgbt out there in the world of Muslamics. It's s***.

There are also plenty of other groups that despise friends of Dorothy. Homophobia crosses religions.

I posted a link earlier in the thread about attitudes to homosexuality in Ghana. According to amnesty they're b******s over there (I para. Plenty of Ghanaians in the UK. Why aren't you questioning their attitudes (many of them are Christian)?
How many homophobic hate crimes are carried out by Muslims? Is it a disproportionate amount?
Come back to me with those figures and I'll gladly carry on the discussion.

Well can you prove they aren't.

 


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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 30 Apr 17 6.33pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

You don't need facts to prove anything? Really.
I'm sorry that I want to see data facts and reports before coming to a conclusion.And you accuse islam of being backwards!

Additionally elgrande and I were discussing hate crimes and the statistics behind that, not attitudes to lgbt. Why are you shifting the goalposts.
We know that there are examples of heinous attitudes towards anyone lgbt out there in the world of Muslamics. It's s***.

There are also plenty of other groups that despise friends of Dorothy. Homophobia crosses religions.

I posted a link earlier in the thread about attitudes to homosexuality in Ghana. According to amnesty they're b******s over there (I para. Plenty of Ghanaians in the UK. Why aren't you questioning their attitudes (many of them are Christian)?
How many homophobic hate crimes are carried out by Muslims? Is it a disproportionate amount?
Come back to me with those figures and I'll gladly carry on the discussion.

And I think there are a tad more Muslims than Ghanaians in the UK nick.
I am not saying it is necessarily down to the Muslim community that there are more hate crimes against the lbgt community,but it is also a possibility,but you just dismiss.
The very thing you accuse other people of doing on things you post.

 


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