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 Teddy Eagle  07 May 23 10.09pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The most recent is when, in the White House after a series of disasters, he cried out "Where's my Roy Cohn?" Here are some articles which deal with Trump's relationship with Cohn. They will clarify it for you if indeed you are actually in any doubt. There are quotes from him in them, but you need to find them. As to the second matter, I am surprised you remember that story. Whilst true it was a long time ago and not something I have mentioned to anyone for a long time. I had not thought of it as modern slavery, because when it happened such a term didn't exist and what happened to her was depressingly familiar. I suppose, on reflection, some would describe it that way, although I am not sure I do. She went there of her own free will but then found herself trapped. She was able to leave but lacked the resources to do so. Cohn was a despicable individual but he died 30 years before Trump's election. He was also Ed Koch's lawyer so he had some influence on democrats too.
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Wisbech Eagle Online  Truro Cornwall 07 May 23 10.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's such a ridiculous analogy. It's straight from the left and increasingly neo liberal playbook. Challenge your opinion or Trump's by referring to Hitler. What they never seem to acknowledge that the views of most of the people who actually fought and died fighting Hitler were just as right wing and in many cases much more right wing than those they complain about today. Yet since when did actual truth matter to these people. As for Trump, when you look at what the guy actually says....not the derangement that these guys come out with....he's little different to a nineties Democrat.....which was the party he funded back in the nineties and the same party containing people like Biden and Clinton who were saying much of what Trump says now. The level of dishonesty is off the charts. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 May 2023 9.33pm) What is ridiculous is to assume there is an analogy of anything, other than the tactics. Which work, which is why they were used in the first place. No one disputes that many who fought Hitler were right-wing and no suggestion has been made to the contrary. Nor has anything been said, in this thread, about the policies espoused by Trump. Only the tactics. If people feel uncomfortable about such similarities being pointed out and draw their own conclusions then that's for them to reflect on. The level of dishonesty is, indeed, off the charts.
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 07 May 23 10.21pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Cohn was a despicable individual but he died 30 years before Trump's election. He was also Ed Koch's lawyer so he had some influence on democrats too. All true but he was particularly close to Trump and there seems very little doubt that he was his mentor and that he taught him many things that he continues to use today.
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| Teddy Eagle 07 May 23 10.24pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
All true but he was particularly close to Trump and there seems very little doubt that he was his mentor and that he taught him many things that he continues to use today. If those tactics work then shouldn't he?
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| Stirlingsays 07 May 23 10.33pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What is ridiculous is to assume there is an analogy of anything, other than the tactics. Which work, which is why they were used in the first place. No one disputes that many who fought Hitler were right-wing and no suggestion has been made to the contrary. Nor has anything been said, in this thread, about the policies espoused by Trump. Only the tactics. If people feel uncomfortable about such similarities being pointed out and draw their own conclusions then that's for them to reflect on. The level of dishonesty is, indeed, off the charts. No, you're the ridiculous one when it was you who mentioned the Hitler name. The tactics which Hitler used weren't new and mass rallies that been used before and since. The civil rights movement used the same tactics....so would you bring Hitler's name up there? There is no relevance in bringing up Hitler at all other than a blatant example of your TDS.
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 07 May 23 11.08pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
If those tactics work then shouldn't he? They did for him, and continue to with some now. Others have witnessed the reality and turned away. Which in somewhere like the USA is possible.
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 07 May 23 11.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No, you're the ridiculous one when it was you who mentioned the Hitler name. The tactics which Hitler used weren't new and mass rallies that been used before and since. The civil rights movement used the same tactics....so would you bring Hitler's name up there? There is no relevance in bringing up Hitler at all other than a blatant example of your TDS. I used it for the plainly obvious reason that it is the best-known example of such tactics in the past 100 years. Only those who want to see other associations and feel they transmit taint are trying to distance themselves. Which, of itself, is revealing. Would I use it if we were discussing the civil rights movement? Probably, but we aren't. This is a Trump thread.
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 HKOwen  Hong Kong 08 May 23 7.50am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The most recent is when, in the White House after a series of disasters, he cried out "Where's my Roy Cohn?" Here are some articles which deal with Trump's relationship with Cohn. They will clarify it for you if indeed you are actually in any doubt. There are quotes from him in them, but you need to find them. As to the second matter, I am surprised you remember that story. Whilst true it was a long time ago and not something I have mentioned to anyone for a long time. I had not thought of it as modern slavery, because when it happened such a term didn't exist and what happened to her was depressingly familiar. I suppose, on reflection, some would describe it that way, although I am not sure I do. She went there of her own free will but then found herself trapped. She was able to leave but lacked the resources to do so. You have done nothing to show that Trump ever acknowledged a debt to Cohn, again the fevered imagination of your wandering mind. It's OK to be wrong but best to quit when you're behind Edited by HKOwen (08 May 2023 7.50am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 8.20am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
You have done nothing to show that Trump ever acknowledged a debt to Cohn, again the fevered imagination of your wandering mind. It's OK to be wrong but best to quit when you're behind Edited by HKOwen (08 May 2023 7.50am) There are enough quotes, along with the story of their relationship which is uncontested, in those articles to demonstrate that Trump relied on, learned from and was indebted to Cohn. That's not imagined by me. It's reported by the MSM media so if you want to be pedantic and pick a fight, kindly do so with them.
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| georgenorman 08 May 23 8.58am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Maybe you need to go back to nursery school to learn the basics of how to read. I also, after your persistent nitpicking, used "routinely" to qualify it so that people like you can understand. It seems as though you are just interested in picking nits than in gaining understanding. I am so glad I am not you. You'll be comparing me to Hitlet next.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 08 May 23 9.10am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There are enough quotes, along with the story of their relationship which is uncontested, in those articles to demonstrate that Trump relied on, learned from and was indebted to Cohn. That's not imagined by me. It's reported by the MSM media so if you want to be pedantic and pick a fight, kindly do so with them. It's ok to be wrong, just stop digging. What you stated is incorrect, just move on. Your interpretation of something does not make it a fact. I know your RDD won't allow you to accept this but that's not your fault.
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 08 May 23 9.14am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
You'll be comparing me to Hitlet next. As I have never heard of Hitlet, that's unlikely. As I have no interest in you personally, it's extremely unlikely.
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