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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 24 8.36pm |
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Don’t do the crime and you won’t pay the fine! That applies just as much to Yaxley-Lennon as it does to Donald Trump. Y-L has hidden most of his wealth. There’s been plenty available in the past, and is now, for him to support some of the charities providing help to the victims but he doesn’t. He just uses their situation for his own purposes. No one should be fooled by him.
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| Stirlingsays Online 16 Jan 24 8.45pm |
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Pond life.
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cryrst  The garden of England 16 Jan 24 9.02pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Don’t do the crime and you won’t pay the fine! That applies just as much to Yaxley-Lennon as it does to Donald Trump. Y-L has hidden most of his wealth. There’s been plenty available in the past, and is now, for him to support some of the charities providing help to the victims but he doesn’t. He just uses their situation for his own purposes. No one should be fooled by him. If he would have kept shut about what he knew he would by now be off the radar. Ex EDL etc. but he hasn’t and isn’t keeping quiet. Someone’s liberty is worth more than a charity donation. What you are saying is that any girls who have been removed from these gangs or the gangs jailed is not as important as the said donation.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jan 24 10.36pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That’s unequivocally untrue. I have consistently criticised in very strong terms the evil men involved and only today described what I think their punishment should be. Criticising Y-L is totally consistent with that because he makes things worse, not better. Nor am I any kind of “apologist for all things immigration”! What a nonsensical idea. I want to see the illegal immigration controlled as much as anyone. That I understand the need at present for controlled immigration where skill shortages exist is entirely sensible. Apologies are unnecessary. Yes, I accept we now live in a global economy because I accept we now live in a changed world. You don’t. You live in a bubble of yesterdays. In a sense, you are right about that. Robinson has become a distraction because of the establishments obsession with the so called far right. I think that nicely demonstrates the derangement of our society. They don't want to tackle problems of their own making, and yet they want to persecute people who complain about it.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 24 11.20pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
If he would have kept shut about what he knew he would by now be off the radar. Ex EDL etc. but he hasn’t and isn’t keeping quiet. Someone’s liberty is worth more than a charity donation. What you are saying is that any girls who have been removed from these gangs or the gangs jailed is not as important as the said donation. Don’t be so ridiculous. If he “knew”:anything then the first thing he should have done is shared it with the police. If they did not satisfy him that appropriate action would follow then he should have next contacted his MP and got them involved. If that failed then go to the media. Y-L doesn’t think or behave like that. He considers himself a “citizen journalist” who is above such things. His purpose is finding stories which lend support to a much wider objective than the plight of the girls being groomed and how best to help them. He has tapped into a vein of hatred that exists in the lower reaches of the scuzzy hard right, which he first identified during his membership of the BNP and cemented during his leadership of the EDL. He has done OK out of this activity. Much better than working as an aircraft engineer perhaps! Anyone looking at his history and attitudes ought to be appalled. They are indefensible.
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| georgenorman 17 Jan 24 7.43am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Don’t do the crime and you won’t pay the fine! That applies just as much to Yaxley-Lennon as it does to Donald Trump. Y-L has hidden most of his wealth. There’s been plenty available in the past, and is now, for him to support some of the charities providing help to the victims but he doesn’t. He just uses their situation for his own purposes. No one should be fooled by him. You would think he was a rogue landlord guilty of not maintaining his gas appliances rather than someone who exposed, predominately pakistani-heritage, pedophile gangs, who the authorities turned a blind eye to so as not to appear racist. I know who I think is doing the fooling. Edited by georgenorman (17 Jan 2024 7.44am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jan 24 8.07am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Immigrants are either legally entitled to be here or not. I think most of the population are sick and tired of all things immigration, and that is demonstrated by numerous surveys. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Jan 2024 8.09pm) Without over-riding compelling evidence for compassionate treatment I, and most others I suspect, agree. That though doesn’t mean most cannot see the need for legal immigration, for job shortages, family reasons or for study. Nor does it excuse the unconnected “anti-white shakedown” comment.
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| Stirlingsays Online 17 Jan 24 8.38am |
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This was exactly the intention of third worldists and it's exactly how it's been used and what happened. No one on these islands has ever owned an incoming immigrant anything. The evidence clearly shows that people here were always against most immigration and were lied to by both political parties on immigration and its numbers....Any reading of manifestos of the past clearly shows it. If you read both Labour and Tory manifestos going back to the start of post war immigration nothing they said on immigration was adhered to....they promised to change that pretty much every time and instead it got worse. Native peoples have lost entire areas and eventually that will become their whole country. There will be no voting to change that...as if voting ever mattered due to the lies. If continued there will come a time where even the names England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland will be meaningless connection to a dead past and will likely be changed to reflect that. We were never asked. What is happening is the destruction of a nation and the attempted replacement genocide of the people of Europe by its elite. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Jan 2024 9.01am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jan 24 10.09pm |
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In our representative democracy the job of our representatives is to use their own judgement to deliver what they believe we need. It’s not to do what we want. They are not delegates who take instructions on how to vote. Our sole job is to choose who represents us. If we keep choosing representatives who decide to do things that any individual objects to then the reason is obvious. Not enough either care or agree with them. If they keep making promises that they then break because they know they aren’t actually deliverable, but need to make to get the votes, whose responsibility is that? That’s representative democracy for you. Some are going to be disappointed and frustrated. Others grateful that wiser heads than the cumulative wisdom of tabloid readers, prevail. Don’t like it? Go live in Russia and have everything decided by one man. I won’t bother with refuting yet another outing of “The Great Replacement Theory”, with all its nasty undertones. Those who cling to its illogical straight line thinking are never going to change their position and will go on moaning as if that could help in any practical way. They will just have to be ignored whilst the rest of us, whatever the origins of our forefathers or colour of our skins, will have to keep on working to find ways that everyone can be happy with. Nothing very new there. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (17 Jan 2024 10.20pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 17 Jan 24 10.26pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
In our representative democracy the job of our representatives is to use their own judgement to deliver what they believe we need. It’s not to do what we want. They are not delegates who take instructions on how to vote. Our sole job is to choose who represents us. If we keep choosing representatives who decide to do things that any individual objects to then the answer is obvious. Not enough either care or agree with them. If they keep making promises that they then break because they know they aren’t actually deliverable, but need to make to get the votes, whose responsibility is that? That’s representative democracy for you. Some are going to be disappointed and frustrated. Others grateful that wiser heads than the cumulative wisdom of tabloid readers prevail. Don’t like it? Go live in Russia and just have everything decided by one man. Hiding behind that crap again? Our democracy does not allow us to make real choices. We are stuck with a lot of public school boys detached from reality. Very soon, the state of this country will become so bad that they will be washed away as a right wing party becomes the last hope. The idea that our own government can't decide who comes here is so insane that it is just a matter of time before the day of reckoning.
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Teddy Eagle  17 Jan 24 10.27pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
In our representative democracy the job of our representatives is to use their own judgement to deliver what they believe we need. It’s not to do what we want. They are not delegates who take instructions on how to vote. Our sole job is to choose who represents us. If we keep choosing representatives who decide to do things that any individual objects to then the reason is obvious. Not enough either care or agree with them. If they keep making promises that they then break because they know they aren’t actually deliverable, but need to make to get the votes, whose responsibility is that? That’s representative democracy for you. Some are going to be disappointed and frustrated. Others grateful that wiser heads than the cumulative wisdom of tabloid readers, prevail. Don’t like it? Go live in Russia and have everything decided by one man. I won’t bother with refuting yet another outing of “The Great Replacement Theory”, with all its nasty undertones. Those who cling to its illogical straight line thinking are never going to change their position and will go on moaning as if that could help in any practical way. They will just have to be ignored whilst the rest of us, whatever the origins of our forefathers or colour of our skins, will have to keep on working to find ways that everyone can be happy with. Nothing very new there. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (17 Jan 2024 10.20pm) And that representative democracy decided to offer the Brexit referendum and then to act on its outcome. Case closed.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Jan 24 10.53pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Hiding behind that crap again? Our democracy does not allow us to make real choices. We are stuck with a lot of public school boys detached from reality. Very soon, the state of this country will become so bad that they will be washed away as a right wing party becomes the last hope. The idea that our own government can't decide who comes here is so insane that it is just a matter of time before the day of reckoning. You obviously confuse crap with the truth. I am not really surprised. Don’t like the public school boys? Choose someone else and convince others to. Our government can decide who comes here. They don’t want to admit the illegals anymore than you do. That’s not the problem. It’s doing it that is. Making decisions is easy. It’s the implementation of them that’s the hard bit. Allowing managed immigration is absolutely necessary at the moment. Several parts of the economy would struggle badly without it. Universities need international students to survive. Keeping families intact is a moral duty. You might want us to ignore international law and treaties but the implications of doing so could be very damaging to our reputation and standing. British integrity is one of our few remaining bargaining chips.
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