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palaceontheup Flag 19 Mar 17 12.58pm Send a Private Message to palaceontheup Add palaceontheup as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8


Blimey - you still have a lot to learn football wise. We imposed ourselves and were really up for it from the first minute to the last v Stoke and it wouldn't have mattered if the real Stoke had turned up. We still would have beaten them in all aspects. Credit where credit is due and that was our most dominant and attacking performance this season for sure. You can't accept that because Pardew was our manager. A one-eyed fan to be sure.

Now West Brom was the most impressive result. I get that. Thanks, Sam. But footballing performance? That's v Stoke. Thanks, Al.

Edited by Kermit8 (18 Mar 2017 11.35pm)


How you can tell anyone they have a lot to learn about football when you were preaching to me how you know everything and are always right about our relegations and are never wrong! before we finished our window business! Then you change your tune saying "no, this isn't the same team as when I predicted"

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 19 Mar 17 1.09pm

Its definitely a good sign, but there is still a way to go, but winning three games on the spin has taken us from being relegation fodder to relegation potential, and there is still a way to go. But we've given ourselves a very good fighting chance, some belief and confidence.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Mar 17 1.48pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king!

And those showing their undying love for Pardew when he averages 1 win in every 6 league matches really are blind.

 


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Mad4palace Flag 19 Mar 17 4.00pm Send a Private Message to Mad4palace Add Mad4palace as a friend

I said that it would take a long time for him to turn it around. I wasn't fully convinced we needed to take such distractive changes to the tactics and training but it was obvious he was changing a lot on the training ground.

 

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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 19 Mar 17 4.19pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by Mo Sizlak

3 wins and 3 clean sheets on the trot. He deserves all the plaudits going.
Super Al couldn't buy a clean sheet.

A good example of why this thread is frankly ridiculous.

Look at Pardew's first 12 months. They were brilliant by anyone's standards - still ended in tears.

Allardyce is starting to get good results but in all likelihood, it will still all end in tears and he will be seen as the Devil incarnate

 


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KAOS Flag In a tree 20 Mar 17 9.30am Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

End of the day, you ask any of the bottom 3 clubs if they’d swap their current manager for Sam Allardyce and they’d bite your hand off. That tells you all you need to know. He’s by the far best, by a country mile, for the predicament we find ourselves in. We are lucky to have him and just hope he keeps us up so we can properly revel in his greatness …

 

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KAOS Flag In a tree 20 Mar 17 9.33am Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

And those showing their undying love for Pardew when he averages 1 win in every 6 league matches really are blind.

Exactly!

 

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Ian-VI Flag Vicenza 20 Mar 17 9.43am Send a Private Message to Ian-VI Add Ian-VI as a friend

What was really annoying me wasn't the fact of Allardyce yes or no, or his tactics or Pardew's...
it was the fact that 3 weeks after his appointment there were many users complaining that "he had 3 weeks to top up fitness and yet the team keep conceding at the end of the halves etc...".
Really, if anyone has ever trained, or even played any sport, perfectly know that you simply can't top up fitness while training and playing matches!!!
How could he??
Fact is, that the first 2 weeks break he had available, he almost did a preseason fitness again, and you all see the results.
A serie A manager once told that you have to decide, if you step in a team in bad fitness shape, you have to do the preseason fitness all over again, but you have to deal with the fact that you lose your team for 2 to 3 weeks due to heavy legs.
So, you have to decide if doing it or not, or better, decide if you have a break or decide to lose 3 matches in a row to be ready later.
How can anyone think that a manager can improve fitness while playing week it week out is beyond me.

 


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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 20 Mar 17 9.53am

Originally posted by tazzer

Stoke at home was our best performance by far

Sorry i disagree with that Stoke never turned up they were so poor it was untrue.
WBA away was a massive result for us and a great performance against a decent side.

 

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Mad4palace Flag 20 Mar 17 10.05am Send a Private Message to Mad4palace Add Mad4palace as a friend

Originally posted by Ian-VI

What was really annoying me wasn't the fact of Allardyce yes or no, or his tactics or Pardew's...
it was the fact that 3 weeks after his appointment there were many users complaining that "he had 3 weeks to top up fitness and yet the team keep conceding at the end of the halves etc...".
Really, if anyone has ever trained, or even played any sport, perfectly know that you simply can't top up fitness while training and playing matches!!!
How could he??
Fact is, that the first 2 weeks break he had available, he almost did a preseason fitness again, and you all see the results.
A serie A manager once told that you have to decide, if you step in a team in bad fitness shape, you have to do the preseason fitness all over again, but you have to deal with the fact that you lose your team for 2 to 3 weeks due to heavy legs.
So, you have to decide if doing it or not, or better, decide if you have a break or decide to lose 3 matches in a row to be ready later.
How can anyone think that a manager can improve fitness while playing week it week out is beyond me.

Agreed mostly but the points total from those first 8 games (4 pts) was awful. That's are the run of games that could end up costing us this season not the 10 to come. Did he work them too hard initially during a packed fixture list? We ended up messing around with a 3-4-3 but since gone away from it with better results. The Swansea game was the worst in terms of how exhausted the players looked despite it being the most crucial of our season, had we just got 1 point from that, we'd be on 29pts and Swansea would be on 25, that 4 point gap to the bottom 4 would have been massive.

Sam's record at Sunderland was similar; initially struggling but soon the players start to understand his ways but he did have a bit more time there. I'm not sure we actually needed as drastic a change with our approach, just needed to improve game management, greater focus on defence and fitness, those were the things costing us under Pardew, we were scoring a bunch, just conceding a hell of a lot too and fading in games.

Edited by Mad4palace (20 Mar 2017 10.17am)

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Mar 17 10.13am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by bubble wrap

Sorry i disagree with that Stoke never turned up they were so poor it was untrue.
WBA away was a massive result for us and a great performance against a decent side.

That makes you blind and lacking any football knowledge as well then.

 


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alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 20 Mar 17 10.46am Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by Mad4palace

I said that it would take a long time for him to turn it around. I wasn't fully convinced we needed to take such distractive changes to the tactics and training but it was obvious he was changing a lot on the training ground.

Agreed.
For the Sam doubters,no Palace Fan would have dropped Dann and Jimmy Mac from the starting 11.
Sam did,and in the 3 wins everyone can see the improvement.
Then when he wants to make sure we win at least a point he brings Dann on.
And even Delaney on Saturday.
Superb game management.
Win or get a point Pardew did not like draws.

 


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