Wonder what Einstein would be thinking about Vieira, reference to insanity ,in doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result!!
Potentially,thirteen games without a win,no shots on goal in over 300 minutes says it all and two probable defeats coming our way??
Surely,we deserve better than this ??
Time to wake up SP.and Board (Bored!!) and smell the coffee.

The big question Brinscall, is it the players or is it the manager. I would argue this isn’t a bad squad, but it’s playing like one. We have two strikers neither of which has been given an extended run and in particular I would have given Edouard more of a chance. Are they both bad players or are they devoid of confidence and whose fault is that.

It is a valid question is it the players or the squad. Last season we were happy with the Manager and this season we have brought in some different players changing the dynamic of the group but the manager has stayed the same. I am not sure which it is but I am leaning towards supporting PV over the players .I agree it isn’t a bad squad but the balance is perhaps not there. This is why I am prepared to let PV continue against the so called lesser teams before judging him. I accept it may be too late then but it will only be because the other teams are better.COYP

This site is all about opinions, but I don't think it is helpful to dismiss Vieira Out views as crazy. I am happy to listen to other views, and still hope that PV turns it round (though I would not have given him any more chances). The reasons I think he should go are:
1. We keep excusing our results by saying it has been a difficult run of games. That is okay for a few games, but not for a run as long as ours. It is a fact that almost everyone below us has beaten one of the big teams despite the odds. We have not.
2. The failure to register a shot on target for more than 300 minutes betrays a complete failure of attacking strategy. We are failing, yet not attempting any changes. Maybe our strikers are not the best (but to me Edouard could still prove a valuable asset), but the issue is not missing chances, it's failing to create anything, despite having 3 high-quality flair players.
3. I don't think PV has been well-supported in the last few transfer windows, but in Guaita, Andersen, Guehi, Doucoure, Zaha, Eze and Olise we have a nucleus of players who ought to be playing for a top-half team. We should not be barely able to create a chance and currently both the worst and the most boring team in the league.

I would love to be proven wrong with a great last 12 games where we pick up 20 points (even then worse than last season), but to me that could only happen with someone else in charge. To my mind regardless of what long-term managerial options are available, we need a new manager bounce which could do enough to save us from what, to me, is starting to look inevitable. I don't buy the argument that when we play the lower half teams we will suddenly be able to score. Change is required now in my view.

What about 0-3 at home to Fulham, 0-1 away to Forest and not to forget the humiliation at home to Brighton in spite of Tomkins' lucky header?
Tonight I will NOT get up Thai time to watch Deunk operate as a Beckenbauer running the game, with our front men paralyzed as soon as the ball leaves our own half.

Seen a league table that ranked clubs on points per million spent and we was 3rd, if the club doesn't want to compete financially then it doesn't take long to get left behind in this league. I still think viera has done as good a job as expected tbh, take zaha out and I think our squad is average to poor. 1 lb and 2 strikers in a squad of 25 is not good enough.