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jamiemartin721  Reading 24 Oct 17 5.35pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Obama is a cautious man, you can tell this from his often infuriating speech patterns as he pauses in search of the exact right phrasing. It is natural that he would be this way in decision-making over the use in action of armed forces; lives are at stake. I have no doubt that it frustrated military commanders, but it is set up this way on purpose, not by accident. Obama was chosen by the country to be President and therefore run the military. That's who we wanted in charge. Now it's Trump. That's how democracy works. A necessity, if you ask me, for freedom. Divorcing the authority of military from the military, creates a nice little balance of power. The civilian leader and the military command, are both dependent on each other, and both realistically have the capacity to hold the other in check, if they should 'get out of control'.
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 Ray in Houston  Houston 24 Oct 17 5.39pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Speaking about nuclear weapons, what about the US selling 20 per cent of its uranium to Russia, signed off by Hillary Clinton? At the same time, millions of dollars flowed from Russia into the Clinton Foundation. Hmmmm!
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| Ray in Houston Houston 24 Oct 17 5.46pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Also Weinstein donated heavily to the Clinton foundation. She was there with the rest of them putting the boot in....but she isn't returning his money....according to what I've seen the foundation stated. 'We are a charity. Donations, these included, have been spent fighting childhood obesity and HIV/AIDS, combating climate change, and empowering girls and women, and we have no plans to return them.' Clinton is hugely wealthy....she could replace his 250, 000 grand easily......but there you go.
Did you also demand that all the kids who went on Jim'll Fix It give back the value of whatever the show did for them? Regardless, I'm sure Hilary would gladly give back Weinstein's 250k if Republicans agreed to give back Trump!
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| Stirlingsays 24 Oct 17 5.53pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Did you also demand that all the kids who went on Jim'll Fix It give back the value of whatever the show did for them? Regardless, I'm sure Hilary would gladly give back Weinstein's 250k if Republicans agreed to give back Trump! I don't think you quite get my position....My attack is on hypocrisy. She is a hypocrite on these matters...the money is just one point. To compare this to Saville is ridiculous. Children appearing on 'Jim'll Fix It' are not hypocrites. Trump was elected, you just made a spurious point.....but we know you can't be objective on Trump. You are the democratic version of a member of the tea party.
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| Stirlingsays 24 Oct 17 5.57pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
You mean like your 'Russia runs Trump'? How's that myopic eyesight going?
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| Ray in Houston Houston 24 Oct 17 6.07pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I don't think you quite get my position....My attack is on hypocrisy. She is a hypocrite on these matters...the money is just one point. To compare this to Saville is ridiculous. Children appearing on 'Jim'll Fix It' are not hypocrites. Trump was elected, you just made a spurious point.....but we know you can't be objective on Trump. You are the democratic version of a member of the tea party.
What I am doing is not allowing the right wing noise machine to drag my attention off the fact that Trump is a self-confessed sexual harasser, both on the infamous Access Hollywood tape, but also in radio interviews. He has bragged about going backstage at his beauty pageants, including the teenaged version, where he can walk around while the girls are naked. He further bragged that men are not allowed back there but he can do it because he owns the pageant. You can scream all you like about 250 grand legally spent on Hilary's unsuccessful Presidential campaign; I'll keep focused on the far more important and disgusting crimes committed by Weinstein and the sitting President.
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| Ray in Houston Houston 24 Oct 17 6.11pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You mean like your 'Russia runs Trump'? How's that myopic eyesight going?
Meanwhile, the story about Clinton selling uranium to Russia - you know, what the original post was about before you tried to drag the conversation elsewhere - remains demonstrably false. Just because people don't fall for your "hey, look over there" defense doesn't make us myopic. It makes us focused on the true issues at hand - i.e. oversight of the people actually in power, not those who lost an election (about a year ago now).
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| Stirlingsays 24 Oct 17 7.08pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
What I am doing is not allowing the right wing noise machine to drag my attention off the fact that Trump is a self-confessed sexual harasser, both on the infamous Access Hollywood tape, but also in radio interviews. He has bragged about going backstage at his beauty pageants, including the teenaged version, where he can walk around while the girls are naked. He further bragged that men are not allowed back there but he can do it because he owns the pageant. You can scream all you like about 250 grand legally spent on Hilary's unsuccessful Presidential campaign; I'll keep focused on the far more important and disgusting crimes committed by Weinstein and the sitting President. I genuinely think you have a screw loose on Trump. The Trump tape is no proof of harassment. If Trump has broken laws then that's what the legal system is there for.....You know I read people like you and then I look at what actually happens. You and the other fruitcakes are just the democratic tea party. Your language and inability to be objective is why people can't take you seriously. The law will deal with the Weinsteins and the Trumps and the Clintons of this world....that's all we can do. I have little doubt that their money and influence presents a different form of justice for them than the common person in the street experiences....but what else can fairly be done?...I don't ask you that question seriously though as you aren't objective. Screaming about 250 grand? Like I said, you have a screw loose.
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| Stirlingsays 24 Oct 17 7.18pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Really? Because I aren't seeing sh1t. Lots of desperate partisanship is what I'm seeing...the exact behaviour of the republicans when Obama was in power and Clinton previously. Trump isn't being controlled by the Russians and what his team has done is probably no worse than has happened in US politics over generations. Unlike you Ray I don't make claims about stuff I can't know because of bias...so Clinton selling uranium to Russia isn't of interest to me.....if it were true, it would eventually come out...as like Trump she has few friends. Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Just because people don't fall for your "hey, look over there" defense doesn't make us myopic. It makes us focused on the true issues at hand - i.e. oversight of the people actually in power, not those who lost an election (about a year ago now). ? You believe what you want Ray. I just counter you on these aspects....not because it makes any difference to anything...because it doesn't...None of what we say on here matters a jot. No, I counter BS where-ever I find it...because I like to counter BS. Especially self righteous, sanctimonious, very selective myopic BS like yours.
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| Ray in Houston Houston 24 Oct 17 8.01pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You believe what you want Ray. I just counter you on these aspects....not because it makes any difference to anything...because it doesn't...None of what we say on here matters a jot. No, I counter BS where-ever I find it...because I like to counter BS. Especially self righteous, sanctimonious, very selective myopic BS like yours.
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| Stirlingsays 24 Oct 17 8.12pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
You're the one with the irrational behaviours....lopping your own foreskin off so you can fit in.
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| Ray in Houston Houston 24 Oct 17 8.19pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You're the one with the irrational behaviours....lopping your own foreskin off so you can fit in.
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